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Hi Jay;

Yes, it is VERY scary. We are currently watching as our culture undertakes a massive sociological experiment (uh...yah marriage has been around as long as humans have existed, give or take a few millenia, and now suddenly apparently we've seen the light, and have discovered what a ridiculous and confining institution marriage is....???). I don't like the outcomes of this experiment so far! Just watching MTV or even the evening sit-coms on TV show me the rough state our society is in!!

Currently, in all it's wisdom, the American Psychiatric Association is undergoing extensive discussions as to whether pedophilia, voyeurism, sexual sadism, etc...are disordered or not. The problem I guess they're facing is that if homosexuality is considered 'just a healthy alternative lifestyle', then how can they say that pedophilia, sexual sadism, etc, are also not just 'healthy alternative lifestyles'! So frightening!

I wonder if people will open their eyes and start to see the effects of all of this any time soon (e.g.; within my lifetime), or whether we will continue down this very steep and slippery slope to the detriment (and perhaps destruction) of ourselves. So many prayers are needed!

God bless,
Nickie.

Yes, it is grossly horrifying, not only because it is actually happening, but because people are completely unaware of the severity of the situation. In their utter ignorance they just do not realize the abominable nature of their transgressions. We are spiraling down and it shows no sign of slowing. In the modern day pedophilia is hardly even detestable. You haved summarized the situation quite well.

I'm just wondering if anyone has checked the definition of Pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders- Fourth Edition- Text Revision lately. I see no correlation between a loving, consensual homosexual relationship to that of the horrible criminal sexual violation of another person that accompany Pedophilia. Shame on anyone who progresses from the rights and safety of contraception to the criminality and abnormality of Pedophilia in the same paragraph. Love yourselves and each other, please. I pray that you may find what it is you search for and not degrade others in the process.

Sorry, Rita, but natural laws are as real as scientific laws, so this is the reality of the situation. What you want to believe doesn't affect reality.

God bless,
Jay

Jay, What are you talking about? I read your article and am appalled as well as completely confused. You did not once show a modicum of logic in anything you said, which just confirms the fact that your opinion has no basis in reality. I find your statements, if you really believe them and they are not a sick joke, horrible. How dare you suggest that marriage's sole purpose is procreation. I know some people that are barren through no fault of their own. Are they supposed to spend the rest of their lives alone? Also, homosexuals think of sex as a sacred act as well, which just shows that you don't know any homosexuals and therefore prefer to think of everyone as a stereotype without any basis in the reality of the situation. And sex between two consenting adults who care about eachother does not equate to "the belief that children should also work as sexual objects." How did you ever come up with this idiocy? I hope you actually think before writing next time.

Leah,
Wow, this is brilliant! I never realized that people invent Truth, not God. Or that those who abuse sex in some ways will not abuse it in others. We are the enlightened ones of the 21st century, right??? Wrong.

Sorry, Leah, I was going for Truth rather than Political Correctness, but I can see you have a problem discerning between the two. Sufficed to say, some sins are interconnected and depend on earlier mistruths. Truth is not "invented" or "created" or "individual" it is a reality just as gravity is. I recommend you learn more about God - start with Aristotle.

God bless,
Jay

Jay,

I would respectfully disagree with your premise that marriage was created primarily for procreation. That may be what the RCC catecism
says but scripture says something different.
Read Genesis 2:18-24. Verse 18 says: Then the LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him."

Now God also did command them to be fruitful and multiply,(Gen 1:28) but logically that had to happen for the earth to get populated.

Marriage has more than just one purpose and procreation is only part of that purpose. But you invalidate the marriages of those who through no fault of their own are unable to procreate. Your narrow definition of marriage leaves out Genesis 2:18. It is also CLEARLY for companionship.

In the eyes of God two comming together to be one flesh constitutes a marriage. There was no ceremony that is listed in the scripture. There
was no marriage certificate. Those are all creations of man, not of God.

I am not(never) married but I don't see the difference between arificial contraception and the natural form of contraception approved by the Catholic church.

The end goal is to prevent pregnancy. And if God
wills a child to be born they will be born. Contraception by both methods is not 100% and people have conceived using both methods.

As far as Gay marriage, the scripture is CLEAR.
God said that a MAN and WOMAN should come together and become one flesh. NOT a man and a man or a woman and a woman. He also forbids it in Leviticas.. It is also condemmed in the NT.

God's word to the best of my knowledge does not clearly say anything about contraception one way or the other. It clearly speaks against homosexuality and same sex sexual acts. It clearly teaches that a union between a man and woman constitutes marriage and that it is approved and blessed by God.

If you are going to write an aricle, you would be better served to base your arguments on God's word and not the traditions of men...

I think I have made a solid arguement based on God's Word regarding this subject.

So for the record I am against Gay marriage because God is. God is also against pedophilia
Since I believe this practice is also forbid in Leviticus I am against that practice also.

I do agree that the Gay and polically correct crowd are trying to redefine what is right and morally acceptable. They are ignoring or misinterpreting God's word for their own selfish desires. So in principal we are in agreement in regards to Gay marriage and pedophilia.

Your brother In Christ ..

Clem

Clem,

Jay is correct in that the procreative aspect of marriage in equally important to the unitive aspect of marriage. We are created in the "image and likeness of God" therefore the very essence of our nature is procreative, for God eternally creates just as He continually is in union within the Trinity. The two becoming one flesh requires the conjugal act, which both biologically and theologically is procreative. Even science acknowledges this in calling those body parts involved in the conjugal act the "reproductive organs".

As I have said before homosexuality is not only immoral it is anti-biological. One partner uses his "reproductive organ" to achieve sexual gratification in his male partner's digestive organ. It violates its biological function. So at least we all can agree on this: gay marriage promotes a culture of death and is both morally and biologically perverse.

In Christ,
Joe

Joe,

I guess we agree sort of. Now I am not saying Jay said this, but I took his emphasis on procreation as the primary and ONLY reason for
marriage. I was just commenting that God also said it was not good for Man to be alone and that Eve was Adam's partner and help mate.
It sounded like he was almost saying the whole point of marriage is procreation? The act of physical union between a husband and a wife is natural & approved by God. Is the act of becomming one physically only for procreation ? I don't believe it is. If it were women would be having children every year of their child bearing years. And what about them coming together during a pregnacy. That could not be for procreation..?

That act is sacred and meant for a husband and wife only, procreation may happen during the union but I don't believe that every time most husbands and wifes come together that it is with the express purpose of procreation ... ? What about married couples who are past child bearing,are they coming together for procreation?
I just feel that saying marriage is just for procreation is a very narrow view. I believe It is so much more then just for that one purpose...

We are in total agreement regarding homosexuality, it is un-natural and against God
and His law. The same with pedophilia..

Your Brother in Christ,

Clem

si deverian legalizarla porque; entre mas la prohiban mas salen paginas,. pienso que no es malo porque todos los niños tienes un poco de sueños eroticos si la legalizan,. ellos no se sentirian culpables de lo que les pasa seria normal para ellos....

Hey Rita: Psychology is an ever changing field; moreover, think of the political forces behind such a manual. How the hell do you get a pedophile and a sexual offender/child molester mixed in the same bag?? So, am I a "condomphile", because, contrary to the "...phile" suffix, I use it and throw it into the trash? Hmm. . .now what is an audiophile? I'm sure that you get my point, but just to be sure: If a pedophile is someone who LOVES children, then he doesn't commit such hideous acts such as child rape and murder; rather he is absolutely horrified to even hear of it.

Slippery slope argument is a fallacy. One could argue that allowing whites and blacks to marry led down the slippery slope to allowing homosexual marriage.

Did it? No. But the slippery slope argument can be used with equal (in)validity.

I am not in favor of allowing gay marriage. However, allowing gay marriage does not require allowing anything else. Saying it does denies our free will to draw lines and make choices.

Polygamy in the early LDS did not lead to any other "alternaitve" arrangements such as gay marriage. Why would the reverse be true?

Being afraid that the denigration might happen is one thing. To say that the slippery slope requires it is illogical.

As an aside, my favorite invalid argument came from my dad (by way of Dr. Dobson, I bet--my dad at one point got really sucked into these non-Catholic radio guys): If we allow gay marriage, then it'll lead to man-cow marriage!

Of course, it won't. Cows cannot enter into legally binding contracts with humans (civil marriage is simply a contract). Technically, they can't even enter into non-binding contracts. :)

By the way, minors cannot enter into legally binding contracts either. So, no pedaphilia marriages. There are some exceptions, which I wish the states would do away with; i.e. allowing young girls to marry under age 18. (Boys too, but I suspect more underaged girls get married than boys).

Peace in Christ,
Patrick

Jay is absolutely correct! Birth control, fornication/living together and homosexual marriage are anti-christ. God have mercy on those who think it's okay because they are on the road to Hell. Go to confession before it's too late.

First off, homosexual marriage will soon be legalized because so many heterosexuals have been deceived by the media and pro organizations to think it's no big deal BUT it is to God and that's why he destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah. Next, they have plans to legalize adult/child sex and evil in high places can easily pass it because homosexuals have been placed in high positions in government and even in religious organizations. See Randy Engel's book on "The Rite of Sodomy." Wide is the road to destruction and many are on it. Narrow is the road to salvation and few are on it. Souls are falling into Hell like snowflakes per the vision of Hell shown to the Fatima children!

A good book sold by Angelus Press on this subject:

Dr. Bogomir Kuhar's booklet Infant Homicides Through Contraceptives. The shocking story told is that the majority of contraceptives do not prevent conception, but abort the newly conceived. Dr. Kuhar calculates that in the USA, we have in addition to the 1.3 million surgical abortions per year, an additional 10 million abortions caused by contraceptives.

I say good for pedopilies!
media has done the same to them as they have done to gays! saying there all abuers or rapists and generally wrong people. we have accepted homephilia as a way of life and that will open the flood gates for everyone else.

instead of focusing on pedos are bad, we need to simply fous on the ones who have done wrong, im talkin about sexual abuse, rapisits

not jailing somoen because there bf or gf is younger then they are, which happenss alot.

those actully get jailed MORE then rapisits do.

This if for theMan,

What if an adult male's girlfriend is a 12, 13, or 14 (etc..) year old girl? She may look, act, and think she is an adult, but she is still a child. Sick.

Should there be a couple more adjectives in your username... between the and man?

Did "theman's" comments disturb anyone other than me?????

It bothers me that creeps like this are out there thinking it's fine to meet and have personal and sexual relationships with young teenage girls.

Parents please be aware of who your teenage girls are talking to on the internet!! The computer is a dangerous window into a sick world. Young girls don't have the wisdom and experience to realize this.

If you've seen the Dateline show "To Catch a Preditor", you should know exactly what kind of man "theman" is. (The two adjectives missing in his name are dirty and old)

Hi Mary, it's me again.

I find theman's comments as disturbing as you do. I generally choose not to respond to comments that do not contain any questions. The reason being that I generally commit numerous sins against charity when I do - it's a near occasion of sin for me.

Burnt,

I think the idea of not responding to comments works great when it comes to political opinions, child rearing, and especially religion. Nobody likes a know-it-all. I practice the "less is best" philosophy often which isn't always easy (especially for me), but it keeps peace among family and friends.

But this is a child molester! He may never ask anyone's opinion because he doesn't feel it's wrong. Keeping silent may only confirm his beliefs. This man needs to know he is sick minded. Someone has to speak up for the victims. A young teenage girl may have psychological problems the rest of her life after being with a man like this. Maybe silence, in this case, would be a sin... at least for me.

I'm very protective when it comes to children. Maybe it's the mother (and teacher) in me :-)

You seem to be much more tolerant towards criminals than I am. I don't agree, but it is interesting to ponder.

Peace,
Mary

Don't you guys think this guy was just trying to creep us out? I suppose he/she could be real though and that is really creepy.

In Love

wwwo

WWWO,

I think he's authentic. Computer technology has created a whole new level of child predators in huge numbers. Gone are the days when men (and women) felt shame going into x-rated video stores. It's now easy access 24 hour service right in their own homes. And then of course there's our young naive youth "hanging out" in the chat rooms. A sexual predator's dream.

It's similar to the drug explosion of the 60's and 70's. Parents of that generation knew very little about drugs and didn't realize what was going on or how to deal with it.

Likewise, parents of this generation did not grow up with computers. Many are working hard trying to learn. Many don't have a clue what's going on. Now and then the subject of computer security systems comes up. I'm surprised at the number of parents who don't know what this is. That means their kids have free access to any site and online chat rooms...Yikes! I believe the next generation of parents will be much more computer literate when it comes to their children. Hopefully the number of child predators will then go down.

Blessings,
Mary

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