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Reminds me of the old Beach Boys song,
"Wouldn't It Be Nice."

I didn't even know he was Catholic -- shows how much I keep up with current events.. lol:)

Jay, I think you could apply to work as a writer for Zenit! I know you fooled some of the people, ;)

You really got me there.

Still, one can certainly hope for such a public act of courage by the clergy.

Well, the fact that he has been denied COMUNION, that is pretty much a form of excommunication. Right? Even if it was done by the local bishop.

Cesar

Cesar,
Actually denying him Communion is one way of helping him - the church and the Bible teach that those who accept communion unworthily can destroy themselves spiritually and physically. If the Bishop knows Kerry is unworthy, he should deny him communion. Excommunication is much worse - it is akin to damnation (whatever the Bishops bind on earth is bound in heaven, etc.).

Hopefully Kerry takes the denial of communion seriously, but I think it would be very optimistic of me to think he will.

God bless,
Jay

Who says the Catholic church is all bad, if I have to see another congregation fawning over a poltician on Sunday....

People,

I can't believe that anyone who shares in the belief that Jesus Christ died for our sins can honestly say that anyone should be denied communion. This would be equal to a priest damning or judging someone to determine who can go to heaven or hell.
We are not gods. We are not here to judge. We are here to serve the Lord and love your neighbor as thyself.
As a great man once said, "Let he who is without sin be the first to cast a stone!"

Mike

Mike,
It's important to take the entire Bible into account:

1 Corinthians 11:23-30. For I [Paul] received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.

So should the church sit by while someone "eats and drinks judgement upon themselves? Or should they try and help? Remember, in John 20:22-23 Jesus gave priests the ability to forgive and retain sins - their actions are completely Biblical.

God bless,
Jay

Let me preface my comment, by saying I am a faithful, mass attending Catholic. BUT, I am disapointed that the "rules" are not evenly applied. Are Republican, Catholic, Pro-Abortion politicians (although rare, they do exist) ever denied communion? e.g., Arnold Schwarzenegger, who I understand is Catholic and openly pro-abortion.

E.F.L.,
I agree that this should be evenly applied and I would argue that's what the Bishops are preparing to do. Note that virtually all of the comments by Bishops (except for one), simply refers to "pro-abortion politicians," rather than directly to a specific candidate.

Kerry happens to be the biggest target since he is running for president, calling himself a Catholic, and vocally pushing for abortion rights. However, I do think that if Schwarzenegger was running for president, the issue would be the same.

God bless,
Jay

So also should active, campaigning democrats. My friend is great, and devout Catholic, but does not realize how the democratic platform has changed since Kennedy. She, and others need to become aware that the socialist camps have joined the dems since 1983. It is their agenda, not the old, helping the unfortunate, democratic platform.Priests need to be educating the laity more in the pulpit, but they just don't.
t

The Roman Catholic practice of denying communion to Protestant Christians was the final issue that kept me from returning to the Roman Catholic Church after I had left. My attitude was identical to the one voiced by Mike in the above comments. I firmly believed that communion should be offered to all Christians.

Only when I realized that the phrase "whoever eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgement on himself", when combined with the Church's teaching on Transubstantiation makes the Church's practice on this matter an act of mercy rather than condemnation.

When I realized that the Church was legitimately seeking to protect and service those who were in danger of drinking judgement on themselves, I returned to the Roman Catholic Church.

For as long as I can remember, the Church enforced discipline on this matter using the honor system, which of course causes trouble for honorable folk when dishonorable people come by and act like they are good standing in front of those who for whatever reason are unable to receive communion.

For years I wanted bishops and priests to crack down on politicians. A few months ago, I came to appreciate their use of the honor system as a pastorally sensitive solution rather than an act of cowardice. Now that I appreciate the honor system, it looks like the clergy are beginning to crack down.

While the Church's teachings are clear, I am beginning to learn that how to deal with those who reject the Church's teachings is not as clear as I would like it to be.

I'm sorry, but I took you seriously. I am not sure where to find it, but my sister saw that he WAS excommunicated around April 5th on CNN. Maybe I can find it on they're website. If you have anymore news, please keep me in touch.
~tiff~

tiffany,
No, John Kerry has not been excommunicated, although some Bishops have stated that he will not be allowed to accept communion in their diocese.

If he had been excommunicated, it would be very big news indeed.

God bless,
Jay

I agree with the Bishops who refuse communion to
John Kerry. They are following scripture and
showing strength when they uphold the teachings
of the church. BRAVO to Those Bishops..

The Pope should make it official.. Kerry is trying to have it both ways. Using his faith when it suites him.. He has done it with his military service and I'll bet if you check he has done this with other issues.. I am PRAYING that this man does NOT get elected.. Heaven Help us if he Does.

I disagree with the RCC on a few teachings but
I admire and Respect the RCC's unwavering stance
on Abortion and pro Family teachings. They
definitely practice what they preach in this
area.. Bravo RCC ..

Grace & Peace,

Clem

A lay organization, Catholic Answers has put together a Voter's Guide for serious Catholics ot assist faithful Catholics on what issues to consider when voting. It mentions 5 non-negotiable issues: Abortion, Euthanasia, Stem Cell research, Human cloning and Gay marriage. I read it and it was very helpful, it does not tell you who to vote for but it spells out the Catholic teachings on these issues. Check it out! They posted an ad in USA Today on Tuesday, Oct. 12th. It's great to know that some Cahtolics are courageous enough to stand up for the truth about God's teachings on moral issues.

God bless,

DMS

Funny, how being in favor abortion is referred to as Pro-Choice. It is hardly a matter of 'choice' for those countless 'PEOPLE' who have it imposed upon them. Kerry deserves being taken to task. This guy says whatever he believes will get him the votes. And regarding his frequent references to being an altar boy there about as lame as the Pedophiles who call themselves Priests.

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