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Hello!

Firstly I'd like to thank you for your blog site. It's so comforting to see such knowledge and conviction in this age of relativism and corruption.

As for a suggestion....what about discussions about Church history and how certain past events are affecting us currently (e.g.; Councils, history of the rosary, history of doctrines such as papal infallibility, the protestant reformation, history of the Bible, etc...). I think that would be very interesting!

Keep up the wonderful work!!
Nickie.

Great work and witness, you guys!

I would love to here a succinct yet comprehensive (if that's even possible) explication of the Catholic teaching on the mysterious relation between grace and free will.

When you get a chance. God bless.

Thanks for the suggestions - we're working on these now! We'll continually check this post for additional suggestions.

God bless,
Jay

Hello

Im only 16 years old so i go along with the catholic faith because well my parents make me. But last week the priest at my church was talking about how the catholic faith was so against homosexuality, abortion, and contraceptions. I was wondering what the Protestant thought about those topics.

Thank you for your time,
Jesselyn

Hello

Im only 16 years old so I go along with the catholic faith because well my parents make me. But last week the priest at my church was talking about how the catholic faith was so against homosexuality, abortion, and contraceptions. I was wondering what the Protestant religion thought about those topics.

Thank you for your time,
Jesselyn

Jesselyn, as you probably know the "Protestant Religion" is not a single church that believes the same thing like the Catholic Church does a Protestants beliefs on these issues would probally come from which sect he or she follows. A Southern Baptist might not have the same view on these issues as a Methodist. Generally, the Protestant Religion is more lenient on these issues allowing much more than the Catholic Church would.

However it sounds like you are planning on making a decision of what faith you will belong to based on these policies. I may be wrong, but that was what I thought you were getting at. If that is what you need these policies for remember that you should not base your faith on which ever religion sounds the easiest because you end up in the wrong place.

Remember that the way that seems the easiest might not be the right way. In Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus said "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter it are many. How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life. And those that find it are few." The last thing you want to do is become a "shooping-cart Christian" just listen to anybody (In Matthew 7:15 Jesus warns against false prophets) picking and choosing whatever fits you best and following that. That is a big gamble to take on eternal salvation.

Instead, what you should do is look to the bible and scripture to see which policies seem to make the most sense to you. Some versus on the subject you might find interesting are... On abortion : Exodus 21:22-23 (showing God valuing life in the womb and supporting the idea for modern laws to protect fetuses); Job 31:15, Psalms 22:9-10, Psalms 139:13-16, Isaiah 44:2, 44:4 (showing that fetuses are people and that God knows us when we are in the womb). On Homosexuality you might want to read Genesis 9:4-11, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:10 and 1 Timothy 1:10. These passages are the biblical versus that explain the sin of homosexuality and were explained good by Jay in an article on this site (http://www.deoomnisgloria.com/mt/archives/000172.html). The only passage in the bible that deals directly with contraceptives is Genesis 38:8-10 and God shows his displeasure at the act in the passage. Once again Jay does a good job explaining way this translates into modern society in an article on this site (http://www.deoomnisgloria.com/mt/archives/000154.html). The article is lengty and has a few optional links but if you take the time to read it I am sure it will clear up whatever questions you had on contraceptives.

Once again Catholics do differ with most protestants on these issues but do not make you decision based on which faith you want to participate in because of how the policy will fit your lifestyle. Jesus warned us against false prophets and told us that getting into Heaven would not be easy. The people that take the way that appears easy are lead to destruction while the people who listen to and obey the words of Jesus, even if it is hard to adjust to at first (remember we were told the road would be constricted and the gate would be narrow but it would lead to live), will end up in Heaven. The only advice I can give you is to read the passages I pointed out and visit the links to the articles Jay wrote and then make a decision on which faith you would want to be a part of not because of whatever is easier or more convient but based on whichever one, based on scripture, is correct and follows the true word of Jesus. Personally I believe that the church that follows the word of Jesus closest is the Catholic Church but you will still have to make that decision on your own.

Speaking as one Protestant, I agree with what I understand to be Catholic teaching on abortion and homosexuality. Protestants have a variety of opinions, as do Catholics (see this article on John Kerry for one example). I'm a Presbyterian, and yet I find the position on abortion as stated on the PC(USA) website as profoundly misguided.

Contraception is one point one which I disagree with Catholic teaching. Tom referred to Genesis 38:8-10, but I see that as punishment for failing to do his duty to his brother's wife. As with much of old testament law, that duty no longer applies to us, as we are under a new covenant.

Reading the Catholic positions, as stated here, it seems that it does not account for Paul's teaching on marriage "Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." 1 Cor 7:5. Satan is not tempting us with the offer of making more babies.

The quote of Calvin "For this is to extinguish the hope of the race and to kill before he is born the hoped-for offspring" speaks to our duty to be fruitful, as God commanded Adam and Noah. Modern technology has reach a point where just a few children are enough to maintain our population. The quote of Luther given on the catholic.com page I cite above also refers to the procreation that was interrupted. I can't speak for Luther, but that act of procreation was the duty of Onan in the OT law. Not every potential act of procreation is covered under that duty.

Jon,
In regards to contraception, have you ever read extensive information on why the Catholic Church opposes it? Our beliefs go way beyond biblical references. We know from the bible, God created sex to be unitive (total gift of oneself to another) as well as procreative (always open to life). I have one question for you - how can sex with contraceptives ever be fully unitive? One or both partners are withholding an important, God-given natural part of their bodies from one another - their fertility. When having sex with contraceptives one is living a lie. Your intentions might be good, but in reality you are saying to one another - I love you completely except for your fertility, I give you myself completely except for my fertility. Thus your sexual intercourse, although maybe not intentionally, is not unitive because you are not engaging in a total act of self with a total gift of self. Children are a gift from God, who are we to tell God how many gifts He can give us or how many gifts we need? Think of how different the world would be if everyone only reproduced 2 or 3 children to maintain the population. Our lives would be drastically different. Many of the great contributors to society in music, art, politics, religion, etc. came from families larger than four children. Not to mention most contraceptives that people use such as the Pill, IUD's, etc. are abortificents. One is able to conceive with these drugs and then they abort your baby without you realizing it. Also the majority of contraceptives are extremely harmful to women's bodies - most increasing their risks of breast and cervical cancer, heart diseases, and increase infertility problems for when one wants to conceive. Is this love to allow your spouse to endanger her own health so much? There are countless books available on this subject and one I think requires much prayer and discernment. I pray you seek the truth about our sexuality the way God intended it and take the time to fully research the matter. Some great books are Open Embrace, The Bible and Birth Control, Life Giving Love, and if you can handle heavy theological reading, The Theology of the Body by John Paul II.
God Bless,
Maria

Maria,

Following your suggestion I found an interesting web site, www.theologyofthebody.net, where I found this striking passage:

"The body, and it alone," John Paul says, " is capable of making visible what is invisible, the spiritual and divine. It was created to transfer into the visible reality of the world, the invisible mystery hidden in God from time immemorial, and thus to be a sign of it" (Feb 20, 1980).

While I agree that we have an obligation to provide life and upbringing to others, I still don't see how this applies to every single act of union. Since I too reject abortificents, I choose vascectomy after my wife and I decided we could not have more children without reducing what we could provide to our first two. That allows us to share our bodies without having to focus on "natural" calculations of fertility cycles. So although we lose in not sharing a "natural part of our bodies" as you say, we gain in not having to repeatedly focus on stopping procreation.

During one of my college classes today we were debating whether or not pharmacist have the right to refuse to sell birth control pills based on moral reasons. I seemed to be the only one in my class that thought that they shouldn't have to sell the pills if they don't want to. As far as I know several states have laws that say that they do have the right to refuse that service. I don't know alot of specifics and I am kind of looking into it now but it might make an interesting article.

I'm Catholic. What should I say when someone asks me "are you saved?"

Zaida,

None of us holds the Book of Life in our hands. If you are walking in God's grace and forgiveness right now, then you will be saved if death comes right now. However, no one knows the future but God alone. Scripture is filled with references to the fallen away. The early Church was plagued by that problem as well (they called them "the lapsed"). How can you know if you will fall away? The answer is that you cannot. That is why Paul exhorts to work out our salvation with fear and trembling rather than taking it for granted as the Protestant does. All that you can be certain of is whether you are following that command in the here and now. If so, you are walking in the path of salvation. Being "saved", however, requires that you continue to walk that path up to the moment of your death. To claim the status of being "saved" is to claim knowledge that belongs to God alone. Hope that helps.

In Christ,
Dave

Is there a petition going on to the Archbishop of Boston to ex-communicate John Kerry? It could be called Catholics United call for the ex-communication of John Kerry. Maybe this will help the clergy to do their job. We Catholics are viewed as just preaching about abortion but we do not back our words up with action. Actions speak louder than words. Thanks. MG

Dave,
Thanks for answering. The reason I asked is because I had some people come to my door asking me if I was saved. I didn't know how to answer them.
Also, what do I do when the Jehova Witnesses come knocking on my door? Most of the time I don't answer the door. But sometimes they just won't leave if they know you're inside the house.

Zaida,

JW's represent a great opportunity to share your faith. There are a couple of things to note about JW's. First, their theology is radically different. The claim that Jesus was created, just like the angels and you and me. This is directly contradictory to John 1:1, which clearly shows that Jesus is co-eternal with the Father and that He is in fact God.

Second, JW's have frequently predicted the end of the world, but have been wrong every time.

Third, JW's believe that only 144,000 will go to heaven. Way back when they first started, they began designating who was "in". Many decades ago, they finished out the 144,000. Thus, according to their current theology, everyone left on earth today will NOT make it to heaven. The have since created some alternative realm on earth for good JW's that are not part of the 144,000.

Fourth, JW's were not founded until the 19th Century in America. That certainly is a strange God who sends His Son, starts a Church, and then hides Himself for 1800 years until the perfect American comes along! Very strange indeed...

Fifth, JW's make a big deal of the word "Jehovah" as God's real name. You may want to point out that Jehovah is an Anglicanized form of the Hebrew word "JHWH", pronounced "Ya-way". If they got their central premise wrong, how much else are they wrong about?

Sixth, next time you talk to a JW, ask them about their relationship with Jesus Christ. Ask them whether they commune with their Creator. Ask them if Jesus loves them as a husband loves a wife. Ask them if they love Him. And ask them if a real husband would allow His bride (the Church) to fall into apostasy for 1800 years. The biggest problem with JW's is that they really cannot have a relationship with God.

To sum up, they lack love and they lack truth. Those are the two essential elements of Christianity. They have neither. Let me know if you have any other questions.

In Christ,
Dave

Jay,

I don't know if you have done an article about the soul. What it is and what it is not..
If you have can you point me to it ?

I have been trying to do a study on it and what I have found in scripture so far supports (1) our Souls are not immortal. That is a Greek philosphical teaching that crept into the Jewish and later Christian theologies. Our souls only gain immortality through Jesus.

It is a lie of Satan that somehow the church has bought into. In Genesis God says if you sin you will die. Satan says to Eve , you will not die.
The idea that our souls are immortal apart from Christ is unscriptural. From what I have read the church Father Tertillian based the his belief in the immortal soul on the teachings of Plato and not on scripture ..?

Can you comment on this.

Clem

the catholic church has the greatest amount of homosexuals in it and the greatest amount of children sexual abuseres in history and now the curch is against homosexual marriages what laugh this church gives me and it is only because they are secretly supporting the idea because that will take away all tha money they will have to pay out for thier priests abusers. think about this will you.

This is regarding Dave’s 6 answers on what Jehovah’s Witnesses believe.

First of all, you can’t expect a non-JW to tell you what Jehovah’s Witnesses believe in or why they believe in something and expect to get a real truthful answer unless they are one like me, even though I was brought up Catholic, attended a Catholic school, and was an alter boy.

The Bible is the main Text Book of Jehovah’s Witnesses and all of our beliefs are backed by clearly defined scripture and shown in our Bible aided publications.

Responding to Dave’s 6 points:
1. The King James Version says at John 1:1, "The Word was with God." Notice that someone who is "with" another person cannot be the same as that other person. Even Satan is refered to as the "God of this system." Jesus certainly did reflect God’s qualities. Could an all-knowing God learn? Hebrews 5:8 says that Jesus "learned obedience from the things he suffered." The Bible speaks of Jesus at (Proverbs 8:22-26, NJB) "Yahweh created me, first-fruits of his fashioning, before the oldest of his works. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I came to birth; before he had made the earth, the countryside, and the first elements of the world." That is why Jesus is referred to in the Bible as "the first-born of all creation." (Colossians 1:15) Jesus is God's very first creation! For more information: logon to www.watchtower.org/library/ti/article_08.htm

2. There have been predictions of the end in the past but humans error all the time and in all fairness, the 24th Chapter Of Matthew tells us all the signs that must occur before the end. (Please read that) From that, you can see why errors about the end can be made. Even Jesus’ disciples were eager to know when Armageddon would occur. We know that God didn’t even tell his Son the day it would happen. “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father.” (Mark 13:32) Correcting Biblical mistakes like this is a critical part of our worship. By this way, “the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.” (Proverb 4:18)

3. Jehovah’s Witnesses have an estimation on whom God chooses to serve with Christ but we know only God can truly know “the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth” (Rev. 7:1) who will rule with Christ during his 1,000 year reign. The book of Revelation speaks of this group, a repeated number of 144,000 saying “they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years.” (Rev. 20:5) It says “you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth” (Rev 5:10) Most Christian religions don’t teach much from the book of Revelation and want you to follow their own philosophy.

4. All religions have a base to worship a God, but is that worship making the true God happy or sad? We had our start in the 19th century originally called “Bible Students.” Jesus prophesized “I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness” (Acts 20:29) which explains all the reformation of new Christian congregations over the centuries. People were trying to revert back to True Worship and Christianity in the first 3 centuries is much different than it is today. Jehovah's Witnesses reflect true christian values and has proven it stands up to trials continuously such as being one of the few groups who didn’t cooperate with Hitler in supporting the war and thousands ended up in concentration camps along with Jewish people. Supporting war and violence goes against Jesus’ command to “love our enemies” and “pray for those persecuting us.”

5. God’s name is mentioned some 7,000 times in the Bible and using his personal name makes sense out of awkward situations like Psalms 110:1, "The LORD said to my lord." Using the Father’s name is also vital in True worship and is emphasized throughout the scriptures. Isaiah 42:8, "I am Jehovah. That is my name." The reason we say Jehovah instead of Yahweh is the same reason we all say Jesus today instead of pronouncing his Greek name “Yeshua”, the Greek pronunciation is put into an English context since the Greek alphabet doesn’t have a “J”. Didn’t anyone see Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?

6. At Matthew 4:10 Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written, ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” The Bible plainly says "the head of the Christ is God" in the same way that "the head of every man is the Christ." (1 Corinthians 11:3) One reason God sent his Son was for the ransom. "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all." (1 Timothy 2:5, 6) The ransom was Adams perfect life for Jesus perfect life. No sinful person or God could make an even ransom. All of Jehovah Witnesses prayers to God go through Jesus so we do have a close relationship with both. Jesus came to Earth as a model for all, "leaving YOU a model for YOU to follow his steps closely. " (1Peter 2:21) And we show how much we love our Creator and mankind by preaching the Good News of God’s Kingdom! (Matthew 24:14)

I don’t mean to blow your cover on your site but I don’t think most people today even think of Mary as “ever-virgin” and the first chapter of the New Testament explains why. It speaks of Joseph and Mary at Matthew 1:25 “But he had no intercourse with her UNTIL she gave birth to a son; and he called his name Jesus.” But what a challenge for both of them to wait to have sex for 9 months even though they just got married! For me, waiting one day after my marriage was hard enough.

True, most people don’t believe in what we do and ridicule comes with our faith, but for ones with a humble heart and deep respect for the Bible, we offer Free home Bible studies to all those who desire a close relationship with the True God and find true answers, true peace and true happiness. I know this because that is what this faith gave me and praying for happiness is what I’ve prayed for since I was a little boy.(Luke 13:23, 24)

If you would welcome some free information or a Bible study, log on to: http://www.watchtower.org

Thank you for listening & remember John 17:3 “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”

Ed,

I'll address your various points but you will have to be patient with me, I don't have a lot of free time so I will have to address them one by one...maybe someone else with a little more free time will chime in before me, but until then this will have to suffice.

1. I am always against taking text out of context, as you did in your first point, so let's read the entire passage that begins John's Gospel, as correctly interpreted from the Greek.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. - John 1:1-5

Sadly, this isn't the only place in Sacred Scripture where the Jehovah Witnesses have manipulated the Word of God to fit their teachings. Col. 1:15-17 has been changed to read "...by means of him all [other] things were created." Yet the original Greek clearly states that Jesus created all things, the word other never appears in this passage. One must always be on guard against such "wolves in sheep's clothing" who manipulate and distort the truth.

2. Jesus also warned us:

And then if any one says to you, "Look, here is the Christ!" or "Look, there he is!" do not believe it. False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, the elect. But take heed; I have told you all things beforehand. - Mark 13:21-23

"1925 is definitely settled by the scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge..." (WT, 04/01/1923, 106)

"The end of the six thousand years of man's history in the fall of 1975 is not tentative, but is accepted as a certain date." (WT, 1/1/1968, 271)

In reference to Jesus' knowledge of the Last Day, please read my last comment under the following article.

A Reflection For Jehovah Witnesses

It is sad Ed that you have been led astray from the truth of the Catholic faith. My prayer for you is that you will realize the truth and return home to Rome.
I will address your other points at a later time.

In Christ,
Joe

Ed,

I could not help but focus in on your third question in regards to the Book of Revelation and the elect 144,000, a passage that your religion holds to the letter. First of all, there are three facts about the elect 144,000 that Jehovah Witnesses are always silent about and to which I would like to bring into the light. The first of these is Revelation 7: 4-8,

“I heard the number of those who had been marked with the seal, one hundred and forty-four thousand marked from every tribe of the Israelites: twelve thousand were marked from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand from the tribe of Reuben, twelve thousand from the tribe of Gad, twelve thousand from the tribe of Asher, twelve thousand from the tribe of Naphtali, twelve thousand from the tribe of Manasseh, twelve thousand from the tribe of Levi, twelve thousand from the tribe of Issachar, twelve thousand from the tribe of Zebulun, twelve thousand from the tribe of Joseph, and twelve thousand were marked from the tribe of Benjamin.”

The second detail about the elect 144,000 mentioned in Revelation, which is even more perplexing to members of your faith, is found in chapter 14. Revelation 14: 4, “These are they (144,000) who were not defiled with women,” without a doubt attests to the fact that the 144,000 are all of the male sex. If taken only in the literal sense and not in a metaphorical sense, this passage excludes all women from being included among the elect 144,000. Yet again, this second detail found in Revelation raises serious objections to the beliefs of Jehovah Witnesses. Now, not only must you be a Jew, but also you can’t be a woman to be included among the elect 144,000. Why would any member of the female sex want to join your religion if right off the bat because of their gender they are rejected from being members of the elect 144,000? Another problem that becomes even more relevant through this second detail is that not even Jesus’ own Mother can hope to be counted among the elect 144,000. If the vessel God the Father deemed worthy to bear His only begotten Son into the world is not even qualified to be among the elect 144,000, what chance does any woman, let alone person, have of being among the elect 144,000. In fact, if the beliefs of the Jehovah Witnesses about the elect 144,000 are truth than in reality mankind has no hope to obtain salvation.

Besides these first two details, a third detail found in Revelation about the elect 144,000 even further limits those who have a chance to be included among the elect. The second part of Revelation 14: 4, “they (144,000) are virgins and these are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes,” is even more perplexing for those who hold to the beliefs of your faith that the 144,000 must solely be taken literally. Now in order to be counted among the elect 144,000, it is not only required to be a Jewish male but also to be a virgin. In light of this third detail, Peter, Jesus’ head Apostle, cannot be counted among the elect 144,000 because even though he met the first two requirements he was still previously married. Why would any married man want to be a Jehovah Witness when they along with their wife cannot hope to be among the elect 144,000? Sadly, I could not help but notice in your post that you, Ed, are a married man and a Jehovah Witness. Do not these three details about the elect 144,000 not concern you in regards to your faith? I say this not in jest but in all sincerity for the salvation of your soul and your family’s.

One cannot have it both ways. If your faith takes the number of the elect to mean that and nothing more than it must accept these three details about the elect 144,000 literally. In addition to these three details in regards to the elect 144,000, one who reads Revelation from start to finish finds that the passages regarding the 144,000 cannot be taken only literally because they conflict with other passages found in Revelation. For example, before there is any mention of the elect 144,000, who remember must be Jewish male virgins, there is mention of 24 elders worshipping the Lamb, twelve of whom we later learn are the twelve Apostles of Jesus. Revelation 21: 14 says in reference to the New Jerusalem that “The wall of the city had twelve courses of stones as its foundation, on which were inscribed the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.” How can Peter, the head Apostle, be the foundation of the New Jerusalem when he was previously married, and, therefore, did not meet all of the requirements for being counted among the elect 144,000. Another passage that conflicts with the elect 144,000 is found in the chapter that first mentions the 144,000. After seeing the elect 144,000, John writes that he “had a vision of a great multitude, which no one could count, from every nation, race, people, and tongue.” (Revelation 7:9) He goes on to say that “They stood before the throne and before the Lamb, wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands. They cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation comes from our God, who is seated on the throne, and from the Lamb.” (Revelation 7: 9-10) This innumerable multitude is clearly in heaven, being before the throne of God, and have clearly gained salvation as seen by their appearance, white robes and palm branches symbolize joy and victory, and through their words of praise to God. Clearly, John did not want his readers to take the number of the 144,000 literally as the number of those who would at the end of all things share in God’s salvation.

Besides the many passages in Revelation that conflict with the literal understanding of the elect 144,000, the most impressive refute towards this issue is not found in Revelation but in the Gospel of John, which he wrote after the Book of Revelation. Before His passion and death, Christ in order to ease the troubled hearts of His Apostles, including Peter, says, “In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If there were not, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be.” (Jn 14: 1-3) Now as mentioned above if the elect 144,000 is taken literally than Peter being previously married cannot be counted among the elect, and Christ lied right to Peter’s face about preparing a place for him.

In regards to your comment that most Christian religions don’t teach much from Revelation, I present to you the Catholic Church, which is “the pillar and foundation of truth.” (1 Tim 3:15) The Catholic Church, throughout the centuries, has made use of the Book of Revelation by not only reading passages from it at the celebration of Mass during certain days of the year, but also through incorporating many of the words and elements of Revelation directly into the liturgy of each and every Mass. The title given to Christ some 28 times in Revelation, that is the Lamb of God, is said by the faithful and the priest during Mass at numerous times in adoration of Jesus, who is truly present in the Eucharist. Altars found in many Catholic Churches around the world have within them relics of saints and martyrs, which of course is a direct allusion to Revelation 6:9, “When he broke open the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the witness they bore to the word of God.” Another incorporation of the Book of Revelation in the Mass can be seen in the use of incense in the liturgy of a High Mass as a sign of adoration for the Word of God and Jesus in the Eucharist, who is the Lamb of God. This use of incense parallels the use of incense by the elders in adoration of the Lamb in heaven. (Revelation 5:8) There is a rich abundance of the Book of Revelation in the liturgy of the Mass, but, my fingers are about to fall off as you can tell by the duration of this response. If you wish to know more about the incorporation of Revelation in the Mass, there is one book that stands above the rest and that is “The Lamb’s Supper” by Dr. Scott Hahn, whose credentials speak for themselves.

As my response finally comes to its end, there is one more issue I wish to address. In reading Revelation one day from start to finish, I came across an astounding proof clearly attesting to the equality of God the Father, who is the Almighty, and Jesus Christ. In Revelation 1:8, God says, “I am the Alpha and Omega, says the Lord God, “the one who is and who was and who is to come, the almighty.” Now, clearly the speaker of these words is God the Father or Yahweh, who is the Almighty. God is the first and the last and there is no other before Him. I know your probably thinking, “OKAY AND THAT MEANS?,” but what makes this passage astounding is another passage found at the end of Revelation. Before I get to that, I want to establish the fact that Jesus Christ is to come again at the Second Coming, a truth seen in the words of Christ at the end of Revelation, “The one who gives this testimony says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” (Revelation 22:20) This belief in Jesus’ Second Coming was also the belief of John and the early Christians as seen by John’s own response to Christ’s closing words, “Amen! Come Lord Jesus!” (Revelation 22:20) Now with the truth that Jesus Christ is the One to come already established, I present to you Revelation 22: 12-13, “Behold, I am coming soon. I bring with me the recompense I will give to each according to his deeds. I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” Now if I am not mistaken, Jesus Christ, who is the One to come, is declaring through the same words used by the Almighty in the beginning of Revelation that He is God. For who else can be the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end but God? For if Christ was created by God the Father, who is the Almighty mentioned in Revelation, how than can Christ declare to be the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end?

“Peace to all of you who are in Christ"
(Peter 5:14)

Joachim


On a side note, it is interesting to point out that both God, the Almighty, and Christ say They are coming. How can this be reconciled if John at the end of Revelation only says, “Come Lord Jesus!” and not “Come God the Father and Lord Jesus.” John clearly held to the belief of a Trinitarian God, understanding that God the Father and Jesus are both one and the same God, and thus he prayed in earnest, “Come, Lord Jesus!”

Joachim,
Being a Christian is not based on how many masses or rituals you attend, it's a way of life! Catholic priests will always say “God is a mystery” because explaining a Trinity God to a crowd is next to impossible. But remember "God is not a God of confusion."—1 Corinthians 14:33 and when you learn about how the doctrine started, who started it, you will be amazed! I can promise you that there isn’t a single verse that you say points to a Trinitarian God that doesn’t contradict another verse in the Bible.

I don't have time to go through them all but for kicks, let’s try one supposed “Trinity” verse, like John 10: 30 “I and the Father are one.” Jesus explained what he meant when he said the Father and I are one when he prayed to God that his disciples “… may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, in order that the world may believe that you sent me forth. Also, I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one.” - John 17:21-22.

For a full explanation of well-documented history of this doctrine, go to:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/ti/index.htm

We can site verses back and forth all day but really, history can speak for itself. A resent survey taken in Germany said that over half the population believes religions today separate people more than they unite. Do you believe it when you look at forbidding marriage among priests or quarrelling weather homosexuality is OK? In wars, we have seen Catholics killing Catholics, protestant and catholic violence, the Catholic Church hiding and moving sexually abusive priests. The list goes on and on…

“The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world.” (James 1:27)

Early Christians didn’t get involved with the world with their wars and politics. How can you find a religion that is united amongst its people worldwide? Here are 7 main points to look for:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/rq/index.htm?article=article_13.htm

May all those that seek truth, find it.
Ed

Ed,

Just as a side note...it isn't appropriate for a Jehovah Witness to refer to him/herself as a Christian since Jehovah Witnesses reject Jesus Christ as God.

You did not answer my request for an explanation on how Jehovah Witnesses are justified in manipulating and blatantly mistranslating Scriptural passages, especially John 1:1.

Also for a clear explanation of the doctrine of the Trinity and its doctrinal history, please go here (I refuse to use as a point of reference a publication, i.e. The Watchtower, that historically has been riddled with blantant inaccuracies and contradictions):
The Blessed Trinity

I did note that you side-stepped all of Joachim's questions...I wonder why :-)

In Christ, my Lord and my God,
Joe

Ed,

First of all, you did not respond to my post in regards to the elect 144,000. Does your faith solely take it literally and if so do you not see the problem the three details and other Scripture passages present to this belief? Second, what is your faith’s refute for the Alpha and Omega passages at the beginning and end of the Book of Revelation?

In regards to your new statements, I will willingly respond. In response to your first statement, “Being a Christian is not based on how many masses or rituals you attend, it's a way of life!”, I can agree with you that being a Christian is a way of life. But what is the life? For the answer to this question, I will refer to the first Epistle of John, “And this is the testimony: God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever possesses the Son has the life; whoever does not possess the Son of God does not have life” (1 Jn 5:11-12). This life, of course, comes to us through baptism as testified by Paul, “Or are you unaware that we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in newness of life.” (Romans 6: 3-4) However, this life in Christ that we received in baptism cannot simply be neglected and left alone, instead it must be nourished and increased. How? The answer is found in Jesus’ own words, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day” (Jn 6: 53-54.) Jesus was not merely speaking metaphorically but literally as evidenced by His following words, “For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him” (Jn 6:55-56). The Apostles did not take Jesus’ words in a metaphorical sense either for Paul declares, “Therefore, whoever, eats this bread and drinks the chalice of the Lord unworthily is guilty of the body and blood of the Lord” (1 Corinthians 11:27). So you see, by going to Mass frequently and receiving the body and blood of my Lord and my God, the life I received in baptism, which is the Son, is continually being nourished and increased by Jesus Christ as He promised. If that is not living the Christian life to the fullest, I don’t know what is!

Now, I will address your statement on the impossibility of the mystery of the Most Blessed Trinity. First and foremost, the passage you quoted from Corinthians to justify that the Trinity couldn’t exist because it is a mystery is taken way out of context. In saying these words, Paul was addressing the Corinthians on the issue of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially prophesy, healing, and tongues, which were in abundance among the faithful in Corinth. Paul was stressing that though these gifts are temporary manifestations of God’s presence, they are not essential to the faith, and in fact if used improperly they can be harmful for those of lesser faith and unbelievers, “So if the whole church meets in one place and everyone speaks in tongues, and then uninstructed people or unbelievers should come in, will they not say that you are out of your minds?” (1 Cor. 14:23). Therefore, it is only logical that Paul would say to the faithful in Corinth that God is not the God of disorder but of peace. As to how this passage shows that the mystery of a Trinitarian God is an impossibility is beyond my comprehension when it entirely refers to another issue. As for your misleading use of a passage of Paul’s I can only use the words of the Apostle Peter in his second epistle, “In them (Paul’s letters) there are some things hard to understand that the ignorant and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the other Scriptures” (2 Peter 3:16). It is true that the Trinity is a supernatural mystery that man will never come to fully understand through his own reason and intellect, “He was in the world, and the world came to be through him, but the world did not know him” (Jn 1:10). In fact, it was only through Jesus Christ and divine revelation that man came to know of the Triune God. As far as God not being a mystery that’s just small minded and arrogant? For the Lord said to Job out of the whirlwind, “Who is this that obscures divine plans with words of ignorance? Gird up your loins now, like a man; I will question you, and you tell me the answers! Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its size; do you know? etc., etc.” (Job 38) The dialogue between God and Job ends with Job humbly confessing, “I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be hindered. I have dealt with great things I do not understand; things too wonderful for me, which I cannot know. I had heard of you by word of mouth, but now my eye has seen you. Therefore I disown what I have said, and repent in dust and ashes” (Job 42:1-6). As in regards to those numerous contradictory verses, I am curious to read one that truly is contradictory in its complete and surrounding context. “Oh the depths of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How inscrutable are his judgments and how unsearchable his ways! For who has known the mind of the Lord or who has been his counselor?” (Romans 11:33-34). Jesus Christ, who is my Lord and my God, is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last, the beginning and the end!

Now onto your third new statement: religion causes division and not unity. There is no need for me to use my own words to explain this ageless question so I will use Christ’s, “Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and one’s enemies will be those of his household” (Matt. 10:34-36).

In reference to the passage from the Epistle of James, I agree with it wholeheartedly. The Apostle James is stressing that the faithful follower of Christ cannot simply be hearers of the word but also doers. As the holy Apostle says, “What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?” (James 2:14). Through the Mass, the faithful receive Christ into their very beings in both His Holy Word and His Body and Blood, and, being nourished and strengthened, are then called to be Christ to the world. The graces received in the most holy sacrifice of the Mass would be wasted if the faithful simply left their faith at the church and did not bring it into all the world.

As far as your statement that the Early Christians did not get involved with the world, I can only point to Jesus’ own words again, “You are the salt of the earth. But if salt loses its taste, with what can it be seasoned?” (Matthew 5:13) When Jesus in John’s Gospel says that the Apostles do not belong to the world, he does not mean that they are not to take an active role in the political and social history of the world; instead Jesus used the word “world” as a symbol for all that is evil in the world: greed, materialism, pride, lust, anger. Jesus goes on to say, “I do not ask that you take them out of the world but that you keep them from the evil one,” and Jesus continues, “As you sent me into the world, so I sent them into the world. (Jn 17: 15, 18) As faithful Christians, we are not called by Christ to be isolationists shunning the issues of politics, such as abortion and war, or the issues of society but instead we are to be a light for the nations.

“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.” (Col. 4:23)

Joachim

Do any of you ever get out???????

"GAY MARRIAGES" because you know we will convert everyone one day....LOL

I’ve a suggestion. Why don’t you guys offer discussion about 2nd Temple Judaism. I make this suggestion because by-and-large, most Christians – Catholic or not – possess a seriously flawed understanding of the Judaism of Jesus’ day.

In short, most people think that Jesus was the first “Christian,” that the 12 disciples were “Christians,” and that Paul was too! Hence, what they all taught – that comes to us in the New Testament – was a radically new form of religion, or, faith, and this over-against a single, monolithic “Judaism.” Although some of it was indeed radical & new (most notably a suffering & dying & soon to be returning Messiah), the fact remains that the New Testament is at bottom, a text that articulates several expressions of first century Judaism. In fact, most folks studying this stuff prefer now to speak about 1st Century Judaisms (plural) rather than “Judaism,” and while seeing “early Christianity” as a type of Judaism. It wasn’t until the mid-late 2nd Century that a “parting of the ways” was actually made.

In the mean time, Christians still today are getting far too many miles in homilies and sermons by falsely characterizing 2nd Temple Judaism as being a caustic, casuistic, un-compassionate, legalistic, quid-pro-quo, and thus bankrupt religion that G-d sent Jesus to overthrow. (I’ve actually heard folks put it this way!) Jesus = grace; Judaism = Law. New Testament = Loving G-d; Old Testament = Wrath-full G-d. And on, and on.

Besides, with the unprecedented work done by Pope John Paul II toward Christian-Jewish understanding, such a topic should be welcomed. Much work still needs to be done.

What do you guys think?

Peace!

I suggest that you research history and seek the truth about changing Gods word, such as keeping the Sabath Holy. Ask historians about why the catholic church took it upon themselves to invite pagan "sun worshipors" (who worshiped on sunday-unlike true Christians who worshiped on the Sabath (see Latin word for saturday)) into their church to increase profits, and to do this changed God's day to a false day of worship. Read the 10 commandments and seek the truth...this is just the tip of the iceberg. Also ask yourself, why does the bible say that you can ask God (Jesus) for forgiveness, yet you ask a mortal man, no better than yourself in God's eyes, for forgiveness? If you read the Bible you will find the truth.

Gabrial,
I'll pray that you read some actual history, rather than the hogwash you've been reading so far! I also hope you'll spend some time on this site - we explain confession (which is Biblical) as well as several other things.

You seem to view the Bible as the foundation of Truth - as the source of all truth. Is this correct? Were you aware that you received that Bible from the Catholic church (although Martin Luther did remove some of your books)? And are you aware that the Bible calls the Church "the pillar and foundation of Truth" (1 Tim 3:15)? Think about it.

God bless,
Jay

Jay, the only hogwashed person here is you. I support you Gabriel with keeping an open mind and open heart to God’s Word. To be considered as God’s house, you must support truth. Many “Christian” churches today are inculcated with pagan influences in their prayers, customs, and traditions and therefore not Biblically considered a house of God. Even Catholic history can prove that factor.

My advise to ALL is research what churches believe but more importantly look at what their support is from the scriptures. If there is a verse that contradicts that teaching, that belief is not approved by God but of Satan. Look for worshipers that seek truth and are willing to change their thinking to harmonize with God’s Word. Jesus Christ explained: "The hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him."—John 4:23. Jesus did not agree with the modern, relaxed view that there are many roads, many religions, all leading to salvation. Instead, he said: "Narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it." -- Matthew 7:14

Here is a short history lesson to start you off on your search for Truth:

The World Book Encyclopedia says: "Early forms of praying with a rosary began in Christianity during the Middle Ages, but became widespread only in the 1400's and 1500's." Is the use of the rosary exclusive to Catholicism? No. Diccionario Enciclopédico Hispano-Americano states: "Similar beads are in use in Islamic, Lamaist and Buddhist worship." Indeed, the Encyclopedia of Religion and Religions notes: "It has been suggested that the Mohammedans derived the Rosary from the Buddhists, and the Christians from the Mohammedans at the time of the Crusades."

Jesus gave this caution: "In your prayers do not babble as the pagans do, for they think that by using many words they will make themselves heard." (Matthew 6:7, JB) Clearly, Jesus did not approve of memorizing prayers—much less of reading them from some book. His words also rule out the use of the rosary.

The Encyclopedia Americana notes: "The full development of Trinitarianism took place in the West, in the Scholasticism of the Middle Ages, when an explanation was undertaken in terms of philosophy and psychology." –not a biblical teaching.
The Encyclopedia Americana also comments: "Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching." And “By deviating from these things certain ones have been turned aside into idle talk”-- 1 Timothy 1:6 that is, turned aside from true worship.

The Encyclopedia Americana says: "Most of the customs now associated with Christmas were not originally Christmas customs but rather were pre-Christian and non-Christian customs taken up by the Christian church. Saturnalia, a Roman feast celebrated in mid-December, provided the model for many of the merry-making customs of Christmas. From this celebration, for example, were derived the elaborate feasting, the giving of gifts, and the burning of candles."

An open mind is like an open mouth, eventually it closes on something. We as Catholics simply hold to the Church founded by Christ. As I've said to others on this site, by rejecting Catholicism you simply make yourself the definitive authority, not Scripture, for Scripture requires an authoritative interpretation, so if it isn't the Church then it must be you. Talk about relativism!

In Christ,
Joe

Joe,

Where is your evidence for your presumption that Scripture requires a authoritative interpretation? When I read Scripture I see something plainly to the contrary. See I Cor. 2:6-16, which I have quoted in the past. This passage wasn't written to or about the magisterium. Of course this is only my "interpretation" of the passage . . .

Also who interprets the interpretation of Scripture from the definitive authority? Who interprets that interpretation? I have heard even on this blog several completely contrary interpretations of the Church's official pronouncements. At some point in time it comes down to your own personal interpretation and how the Spirit leads you, doesn't it?

In Christ,

Thomas

Thomas,
A couple of things you are missing. First, take a look at Acts 8:30-31. Why would God put this in the Bible? Perhaps it is to explain that we must be taught, if we are to understand. This is a clear example from Scripture that the Bible requires interpretation (I think the entire book of Revelation and the odd theories that come out of it are practical proofs of this).

If Scripture was easily understandable without an interpretation do you think we would have thousands of protestant churches? After all, Jesus' fervent prayer was that we would be "one" and clearly we are not. This is another practical proof that the Bible needs infallible interpretation.

This is one reason we have the Church - to infallibly interpret parts of the Bible. The Church doesn't explain every part of the Bible, but she does make sure that some pieces are understood the same now as they were almost 2,000 years ago when the Bible was written. This is why the Bible refers to the Church as the "pillar and foundation of truth" and says that "now" through the Church the wisdom of God can be made known.

In essence, the Church is the antidote for a pastor reading absurdities into Scripture and "poisoning the kool aid," if you follow me. An infallible text requires an infallible interpreter.

God bless,
Jay

Jay,

Who then interprets the the infallible interpretations? To use your logic that would also require an infallible interpretation. And so on and so on . . . At some point it must be left up to each of us, people who are infallible, to do the interpreting. And yet God still speaks to us.

Why can't prudent study of the Scriptures reach the same conclusions as an infallible interpreter? Most of the truely wacked out interpretations come from people who pick up the Bible and fixiate themselves on a couple of verses or come at Scriptures with a set worldview and warp Scripture to their own uses. You can't compare this with an indepth study of the Scriptures.

I'm not saying that you don't have a point with all the wacky interpretations of the Bible (I've seen enough of them here on this blog from non-catholics to last a lifetime) but you have not addressed my point.

In Christ,

Thomas

Thomas,
Sorry for the delay in responding to this - somehow I missed it.

The point is that the Catholic Church is a living, interactive interpreter. So if someone misinterprets Catholic teaching (as Luther did), they can actually respond and point out the error. The Bible is complete (in it's Catholic form) and thus cannot add pages to respond to any of the blatant absurdities that are read into it.

What it boils down to is that the Church doesn't require an additional infallible interpreter, since she can correct inaccuracies or errors made by those attempting to understand her teaching.

Does that make sense?

If "prudent study of the Scriptures" could lead you to the same conclusions, we would have at least a basic doctrine between all Christian denominations, but we don't. Even omitting the fringe groups, mainstream protestant denominations differ on what would seem like pivital doctrines (baptism of infants, the Eucharist, etc). And some of these denominations have been studying Scripture now for 400 years!

God bless,
Jay

Hello all!
I really did not know where to post this comment, but since this is the Suggestion Box I will give it a try.

I would like to know if anyone here knows anything about a Christian "movement" or group who is lead by the ideas and teachings of two men called "Watchman Nee" and "Witness Lee"?

There is a small, but fast-growing, community of people here where I live that is joining that group.

Thanks a lot
Rafa

Hi again,

I'd like to see an article about the relationship between the book of Revelation and the Catholic Mass.

Thanks.

Rafa

I'm not sure if my requests are welcome, but I'll suggest something.

Could you make a topic on Harry Potter. I'm not so sure that the values exhibited in those movies are quite Christian.

People don't think of it like that, but that's how I think of it.

In addition, maybe you could compare it to the Passion movie. At least that movie depicts the pain Christ went through.

David

Dave, Jay, Joe,

This is a great blog -- thanks for doing this.

I have a suggestion for a new category. I think a stimulating category for e-conversation concerns the war against Islamic fundamentalists and future relations between the West and Muslims. You may have read Samuel Huntington's peice titled "The Clash of Civilizations," which addresses the growing tensions - religious, social and economic - between the Christian dominated West and Islamic peoples and their states. The war in the former Yugoslavia, the murder of a famous Dutch artist, the riots in France and the onoing war against violent Islamic fundamentalists come together to form a topic that may be of interest to your participants.

Some questions: In the face of violent Islamic fundamentalism and a rising wave of support within the Arab world for the likes of Bin Laden, what do we as Christians and citizens of the world do in response? Do religous tensions between the "Christian" West and Islam exist or is in mainly a question of economics? Are European countries regretting their liberal immigration policies that have allowed millions of Muslim Turks and North Africans to reside there? Are Muslims able to live within and support a representative democracy alongside people of other faiths/creeds? Are Muslim tolerant of other faiths? Why is the Islamic faith growing at such a rapid pace? How should Christians view the Islamic faith? How do Christians best explain Christianity to Muslims?

I hope this is useful to you and the readers/participants.

Thanks,
Michael

Hi Jay

I'd like to link my suggestions to those posted by Michael on November 15. I think, like many others, I could give a few short answers to those questions. But that would not help to move the process forward in an orderly fashion. It would serve only to reveal my ignorance and prejudice.

In my posting on praying to Mary, I suggested that Mary might just hold the key to some of the questions Michael has raised. This, because I believe she holds an elevated status in the eyes of many Muslims. Added to this, as I understand it, many Muslim women are now starting to make their voices heard.

So, my suggestion is this: How about starting a "Prayer for Peace Campaign" through this site? You could have an additional question under your "Post a comment" section, asking if people are willing to participate in the campaign. If they are, then their names could be recorded. Of course, you would have to try to prevent duplications, but people can indicate if they are already listed. Obviously, there would have to be one or two alternatives. For example, Catholics might agree to say 1 to 5 decades of the rosary each day, but Protestants might prefer to pray directly to Jesus. Much as I believe that Michael has raised a very serious topic that should receive equally serious attention, my feeling is that it might prove to be too "hot to handle" under the current format, unless it was rigorously controlled, which might somehow go against the basic priciples of the site.

Which brings me to my next suggestion. And here, please understand that I'm very new at this, so what I have to say might have been considered and rejected when the site was originally set up. I'm also aware that there are checks in place to prevent "malicious" postings and that, probably the existing controls are becoming increasingly burdensome, without creating any additional work.

So, having got that off my chest, my second suggestion is for you to include another paragraph under the "Post a comment" section, setting out some "ground rules".

For example, I believe all "Posters" should answer a question, in the affirmative, that they have prayed over their posting before "clicking" on "Post", that they are praying for the other "Posters" on the topic, that it is not their intention to belittle anyone and that they are seriously searching after the truth.

Maybe you could think of a better way of putting this, if you think the idea has merit. I just get the feeling that sometimes people resort to language that, although not necessarily malicious, could be hurtful. And that, if they had to answer those questions first, they might change a word here and there before "posting".

Keep up the good work. You guys are doing a great job.

Suggestion:
Views on Hip-hop music.
Dave/Jay/Joe, I think you would find this site interesting. It shows a lot about the evils in hip hop music, and the seen and unseem effects. www.EXministries.com

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