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Jay,

Just a brief note to convey to you the thanks I note on Times Against Humanity for your mentioning the plight of Terri Schiavo on Deo Omnis Gloria.

As you will note from our lead item, her fate grows darker with each tick of the clock as the ravenous wolves of the Culture of Death encircle her hospice death bed.

God bless you, Jay, for caring!

Yours in the Church Militant,

Earl
Times Against Humanity

PS—I hope you had a chance to read the Barrister's tour-de-force “Pray for Terri!” -- absolutely first rate!

Hasn't this woman suffered enough? NO ONE would want to live like that. Just let her die. If her parents truly loved they would let he go, and not let her continue to suffer. If anyone is KILLING her its her parents. Her husband at least loves her enough to her go than to let her live a life that she will nbever enjoy.

I'm not sure what you've been reading, but by all accounts (except her husband's), "this woman" can react and smile - she's thinking in essence. She can't speak, however, and I'm assuming this is why you think she should die? Yes, she requires constant medical attention, but so do a lot of people who can speak; fortunately for them their voice is enough to keep them alive.

Her "husband" is living with another woman and seems to be a scumbag - stopping priests from seeing her? How ridiculous is this? Of course, he doesn't want priests to testify to her real condition. I would suggest, Jo, that you read a little more about this case before you jump on her husband's bandwagon. Remember, it may be you that can't speak one day when someone you trusted wants you dead.

Jay

Please also don't immediately side against the husband. Only God knows all. NONE of the rest of us do. Yes he is a sinner, (but let he who is without sin cast the first stone...) And personally I do think we should err on the side of life, yet I also have experienced firsthand times where we are also called to "let go of life, and let God take over."

I was with my brother for the last year and a half of his life during a very slow and painful death from skin cancer that progressed to bone cancer. I was invlolved in his care and the administrations of painkillers that he could no longer take orally or intraveniously. In the last few days and hours of his life he did not(or could take) food and water. Could we, should we have forced more into him? He was clearly alive and not in a coma, but he also clearly wanted to end his suffering. Even Jesus on the cross refused things to alleviate pain and thirst. Miracles can and do happen. Sometimes the miracle is one of life, and sometimes, yes, it is one of death.

I had a student about ten years ago who suffered from a rare inoperable brain tumor which spread and caused her brain to begin swelling outside of the skull. Her body was contorted in pain. Her very last conscious action was to nod her head vigorously after being asked if she would like to be baptized. We did so and she immediately relaxed, smiled, and then all brain activity stopped. Her body continued to live with assistance until her father made the painful and loving decision to let her be removed from support.

We should all pray for Terry, her husband, and all those who love them. We should also pray for ourselves that we never endure such stresses.
Right or wrong, all will have a hard time living with the consequences and results of Terry's situation. Let's not throw stones, just sincere prayers.

The courts we know are not God. They can make a mistake. Let's hope and pray that in this case. God can give Terry the ability to make it clearly known that she wishes to eat and drink if this is what is truly best for her after years of what may be suffering, if the courts/government decide to allow her removal from life support and sustenance.

Final comment: Of course a priest should be allowed in regardless of her husband's wishes. Even someone who wishes and is ready to die, would want this if they are (were) a practicing Catholic.

I just posted the last comments after reading some on Terry' situation. I learned of her situation through a prayercast on the virtualrosary.org.

However after posting that comment I saw additional information at:
http://cbn.org/CBNNews/News/031015b.asp

This article changes my opinion even more towards supporting those who are trying to ensure continued life support for Terry. When I wrote my first comments I did not realize that she was still fully living (vs. slowly dying).

Nothing I read though changes my comments about the need for prayer for ALL involved. I also still fully believe that we need to be careful about knowing the heart and motivations of others (even when objectively their actions are sinful). Yes we must condemn sin, but we are also called to love the sinner.

On a related note and request for prayers. Please pray for all who may inadvertently stumble into pornographic websites while searching for information on Terry (apparently there is also a porn star with the same name.) Pray for her also.
...The devil never sleeps. Thank God that neither does God!

She's not just unable to speak, Jay. She lays in a bed all day, doing nothing.Nothing nothing nothing. A pseudo coffin if you will. with the )pleasure?) of seeing her mum and pa once in a while. I'd rather die amd burn in hell that to be in her state. She may be alive, but she has no life!

MAY GOD LEAD HER HUSBAND IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION

god hasn't done a good job of "leading" anybody in that family in a good direction.

After reading all the facts on Terri's case, I feel that the truth will come out to be as has been presented already, but Terri could make a complete recovery, it has happened before, Jesus has ALL power in heaven and earth, so prayer could change Terri's outcome, Jesus is the Best Physician.

I find it very hard not to judge the husband and the husbands attorneys, and judge greer, but in all honesty I feel that the husband is just after money and never loved his wife in the first place, judge greer lacks compassion and competency and Im sure that God will deal with all of them in due time for their satanic evil ways.

My heart goes out to Terri, her Mother and Father and sister and Brother for all the inhuman suffering they have had to endure, due to florida's courts, The Husband, and whomever else that has conspired against this family, I pray that God will overturn this evil with Good, and that Terri and her family will be reunited in perfect health and happiness once and for all.

Sue,
There is a false assumption in America that you only have value if you can physically produce value. One thing the general population doesn't seem to understand is the innate value of suffering. Yes, Terri suffers in her condition. But does that mean that we can decide when she dies?

Again, by all accounts (except her husband's) she reacts, smiles, etc. She isn't sitting there lifeless, she simply can't speak. However she can still commune with God. We as a society have no right to kill her. Remember, she isn't on life support in the medical sense, rather she just requires a simple feeding tube. When it's her time to die, she'll die, but we don't have the right to play God and starve her to death because she is a "burden" to our selfish desires. Life has value, even if it's not as happy or joyful as we would like.

Think it about it this way: mental retardation is terrible for those afflicted. Most will never live the "normal American life" - they will suffer. Does that mean they should die? Heaven forbid - they still have value and they are still loved by God. We all deserve the unalienable right to life - even if others don't think so.

Jay

Another good take on this issue is here.

By your standards, some of you folks, any three-month old should have food and drink withheld. After all, they can't ask for a ham sandwich. They can't bring a spoon to their mouth. They can't talk. All they do is lie there and look at things, and wait for mum or dad to come into the room.

Why don't we withhold food and water? Because the mother and father love the child and plan to teach it to talk and crawl and grow in knowlege, and take care of it until it has progressed.

That is Terri's problem. Her parents did this job 39 years ago. By all accounts they are willing to do it again. But her husband's love for her is, shall we say, not as strong. So he decides she dies.

She does not appear to be in pain, differing from the previously-mentioned cancer victim. Therapy and rehab have been denied her. In a perfect world, she would be able to speak tomorrow and finger her husband as the one who put her in that state, and Judge Greer and his ilk would be in the uncomfortable position of having to back off from their hurry to see her die and focus on her husband.

If Terri is allowed to die, none of us, fathers, mothers, wives, children, is safe from being victimized likewise, either ourselves, or doing battle with a "spouse" who acts as guard dog until we are safely dead. And may I suggest a warning to Mr. Schiavo's current squeeze. Beware. He's showing the world his lack of compassion and his selfishness, and perhaps even darker aspects of his character. That may be you in the hospital bed someday. Get out while you can.

I think it's a stinking shame when the courts have the right to decide who gets humane treatment,and who we can murder, because it'll make us and our lowlife lawyers rich!

I believe that the difference between Terri and a three-month-old and their physical abilities would be that a three-month-old is in a state of constant progression. We nurture and coddle a newborn because we know that he or she will grow into a functioning adult; their lack of ability is only due to the young age. If a mother gives birth to a braindead child, I am under the impression that the child does not, by law, have to be nurtured and live out a complete life. At that point it would be the decision of the mother(or guardian).

In this case, the husband had only begun talking about removing the feeding tube six years ago. That means he has held out for seven years, tortured by this awful thing that happened to him and his wife. You cannot pretend that he is merely a selfish man who wants to "get her out of the way" so he can live a happy life with his new wife. That is a very simplistic view.

In life, Tarri Schiavo expressed a desire to not be kept alive as a vegetable. Her parents say this is not true. I can relate to this because I know I have often expressed this same feeling to my significant other, but it is not necessarily something that I have discussed with my family; so it is not inconceivable.

Have some compassion for this man, and have some compassion for Terri. And the most important lesson to learn from this is to make a living will, no matter how young you are, just in case,and make your intentions clear, so something like this doesn't happen to you.

Just one question, Mina: If her husband doesn't want the "burden" anymore, why not just let her parents take care of her? They've more than offered numerous times. It seems clear that her husband won't be happy until she's dead - it's not enough that she's suffering.

Also, keep in mind that she is able to react, which indicates she is thinking, just not talking. If you want to be killed because you can't move, you should put it in writing - I think in the U.S. where we have the "right to live", we should at least require a desire for death to be expressed more formally than in a casual conversation.

Jay

Governor Bush just saved Terri's life. Amazing. Read the blog post here.

Thank God for miracles like these . . .

You people do NOT have the facts. Terry Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state. According to the DOCTORS, who are experts, her cerebral cortex has disintegrated due to leakage of spinal fluid. Therefore, she CAN'T think. The DOCTORS state - unequivocally - that her eyes blinking, and the noises she makes, are REFLEXES.

Do more research on her actual medical condition - and the facts - before you make such ridiculous statements as you do. The woman is incapable of any brain activity whatsoever. It would be an act of KINDNESS to let her die.

Your assumption that her husband is evil incarnate is also biased and cruel. Does the man not deserve the comfort, the human touch, the love of another human being? It seems you have all forgotten the Lord's admonition about casting stones. Neither you nor I know what it is like to stand in that man's shoes and bear his burdens. Why then do you assume he has only negative motivations?

Catholics like you make me embarrassed for our whole religion.

To Anonymous, who is obviously afraid of being known and won't back up his statements with a name, did it not occur to you, that the "Experts" were hired by Michael and his lawyers so of course they are going to say what they want them to say. Not everyone wants the plug to be pulled, and with our narrow perceptions ("I wouldn't want to be kept alive if it was me", etc.), the truth is none of us knows what we'd REALLY want done if put in the same situation. The same people that say pull the plug could very well change their minds, but be trapped in silence because they can't speak.
Michael is not her husband, he has another life with another woman and child! Why won't he just divorce her or give up guardianship? Because he won't get the money Terri receives after she dies! Why doesn't anyone talk about that aspect? Michael is holding out for the money! Not love and devotion. His lawyer has never been documented as helping anyone do this who didn't have a lot of money coming to them. And Terri does more than twitch. She can stare directly into a camera, she was able to say "no, yes, don't do that" before Michael and his lawyer stepped in and denied further therapy.

I've also seen multiple accounts - including one by the priest who regularly gave her communion until he was banned from seeing her - that Terri was alert and obviously reacting to people and events.

As a Catholic, Anonymous, we must defend life even though that life may seem less than worthy or even unliveable to us. Life is a blessing in itself. If God felt Terri's time was up on earth, she would die. Why is it that we can decide by looking at her whether she can live or not? When Terri dies naturally, her time is up. Until then she deserves the right to live, just as you or I do. If pro-life Catholics make you "embarrassed", then maybe you should look in the mirror and figure out why. We are simply fighting for a person who cannot fight for themselves - this is identical to the issue of abortion.

Jay

Terri's husband has a strong financial motive in killing Terri, because as her inheritor he'll get 750,000 from the medical malpractice suit he filed. Do I sense a conflict of interest here?

WHAT PERSON WOULD WANT TO SEE SOMEONE THEY LOVE DIE. TERRI IS JUST AS ALIVE AS OTHER MEDICATED PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BEING SENTENCED TO DEATH. I AGREE WITH JAY. HER HUSBAND IS JUST A GREEDY NO GOOD *****. THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS THAT POINT TO HER HUSBANDS GUILT. HE WONT LET A PREACHER SEE HER, ONLY THE DOCTORS HE APOINTED ARE LOOKING AT HER,AND SINCE TERI WENT INTO A COMA HE HAS BEEN DATING OTHER WOMEN. NEEDLESS TO SAY HE HAS A CHILD WITH ONE. WAIT HOLD UP....... HE HAS TWO CHILDREN WITH THE SAME ONE. I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY IN THIS CASE. BUT NO MATTER WHO'S SIDE YOUR ON PRAY FOR TERRI HER FAMILY AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRACTICALLY EXPIERINCING THE SAME PROMBLEM.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING! GOING TO LET SOMEONE THAT YOU LOVE DIE. I MIGHT BE A KID AND YOU MAY THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS STUFF BUT I KNOW THAT UNTIL A PERSON SAYS I'M READY TO DIE, A PERSON HAS NO RIGHT TO KILL THAT PERSON. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE HER HUSBAND DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN SAY IF SHE DIES OR NOT. IT'S UP TO HER, IF SHE WANTS THE TUBE OUT OF HER MOUTH, NOT HIS.
NOW, WHO EVER IS READING THIS SHOULD THINK, WHAT IF THIS WAS YOU AND YOU WERE IN A COMMA, AND WHEN YOU WOKE UP AND YOU FIND OUT THAT YOUR HUSBAND HAS ANOTHER GIRLFRIEND AND HAS TWO KIDS BY THE THAT WOMEN. AND HE SAYS IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO DIE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO OR SAY TO THAT?

Michael is at it again, giving interviews saying Terri's parents are in it for the money. Question, if they were in it for the money, why would they keep fighting for her to live? I heard the money is almost gone because Michael used it all for his defense. I don't understand why a man in a common law marriage with one baby and one on the way, can still stake a claim in his wife's future. You can't be married to two people at once. If you go to Terri's parents' site, they have a petition you can sign that mentions a couple of interesting things. They are claiming if a thorough examination/x-rays were taken of Terri, you would find evidence of abuse. That the reason Michael wants her body cremated immediately after death is because of the evidence against him they would find. He won't let anyone see her, because they might discover Terri is not in a total vegetative state. He won't allow therapy, although he is denying this in interviews. And now the American Civil Liberties Union (the same people trying to protect the North American Man Boy Love Association) have stepped in now on Michael's side. The Fox News site has been running some great stories on this, mostly on Terri's side. How can there be a debate regarding life? No matter what, it's a life, so shouldn't we be protecting it, no matter what the cost. What is so harmful in trying to prolong or protect a life, no matter what that life is or appears to be. Why is this even an issue? Because we have been slowly programmed to be numb to death, killing, etc. And hardly anyone is doing anything or standing up for life! We should have people in droves standing up on this issue. We have to love life no matter what that life appears to be.

And the same priests that are writing the governor/senators in Florida for stays on public executions for murderers are now silent with regards to Terri's case. So a criminal's life is worth their time and efforts to save, but not a crippled woman who can't stand up for herself and speak. Scary.

For those who think Micheal is just doing his wife's wishes: Check out this article and then let me know what you think (click here).

This is really just a case of a greedy man who cares nothing for his spouse.

Well, it's not scientific, but the majority of people polled by FOX said they would want the tube removed and that they didn't agree with Terri's Law. I find this very discouraging. It is proof that Americans have been numbed to death and dying. We think if a life "appears" to not be worth living (they can't walk, talk, etc.) then that life is not living and should be extinguished. I am feeling very discouraged and at this rate, Michael and his lawyer will get their way. All over the FOX website, they say Terri is in a coma and a persistent vegetative state. This is not true, they are printing falsehoods. Terri is not in a coma, she is not asleep! Also, the only docotrs that say she is a PSV are the appointed doctors by Michael and his lawyer. How is that fair? They are quoting (without the quotes) only the opposition's side. At this rate, one day everyone over 70 will be put to sleep.

Oscar Schindler and a Ham Sandwich: Why They Really Want to Kill Terri Schiavo

Members of Satan's realm are keenly aware of the reason a person with the last name of Schindler is being used to set a precedent which will pave the way for mass killings in the near future. People involved in what insiders call the network know exactly why George Felos made the ability to request a ham sandwich the litmus test for personhood.

Schindler is a despised name in Nazi circles because the name reminds them of Oscar Schindler. Near the end of World War II. this Schindler managed to prevent 1,200 people from being exterminated by the Nazi regime. Whether or not Terri's family is related to the Schindler who prevented the deaths of twelve hundred people is unimportant. The name is symbolic and Satan uses symbols to mark his doings in the world.

The people Oscar Schindler saved were Jews. That is why George Felos mentioned a sandwich that no Jewish person could ask for in good conscience: a ham sandwich. The symbolism is obvious. The New World Order planners are exacting revenge for a "wrong" Schindler committed in Satan's first attempt at global government.

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, has been following The Plan to exterminate a particular Schindler that he claims wishes to die rather than live in a state of disability. Of course there is zero proof that Terri wants to die other than the testimony of her husband and his relatives, but this makes no difference when the most important death precedent since Roe vs. Wade is in the works.

Mr. Felos believes the litmus test for the right not to be starved/dehydrated to death is the ability to bring a spoon to one's mouth. Also, to be counted among the living one must be at least able to "ask for a ham sandwich":

According to Cooper-Dowda, Felos expressed "great horror" that anyone "in [Terri's] condition" – as he put it – would want to be photographed, especially someone who ate with a feeding tube. He further inferred that to be counted among the living one must at least be able to "ask for a ham sandwich." This is a recycling of the argument he used at an earlier hearing in August 2001, when he told the appeals court: "The litmus test is whether a person can bring a spoon to their own mouth." (Quote source: Fight-for-life bombshell: Woman 'trying to talk'!--World Net Daily)

George Felos is an attorney and makes his fortune by the skillful use of words. "HAM" is the code word that insiders interpret as confirmation that singling out a Schindler for public execution on Halloween week is deliberate.

If Terri's law had not been passed, Terri death would have probably fallen on Halloween week. That is likely the reason Judge Greer ordered her feeding tube removed on October 15, 2003. They know her will to survive is strong and that she would have lived for at least ten days. This would put her death right in the time frame to qualify as a Halloween human sacrifice. In the eyes of Satan and his followers, Terri death would have been a public human sacrifice, filled with meaning. Her death would represent revenge on that lone Schindler who actually did something to stand against unspeakable barbarism, but it would have signified more. Terri's death would open the floodgate for the government to demand the death of all disabled people. The options, as clearly laid out by the judges who backed Judge Greer's decision to put Terri to death are clearly these: miracle or murder. There is no place for disability in the New World Order regime. (See: The Plan Revealed in Terri Schiavo Case: Disability is Not an Option in the New World Order http://libertytothecaptives.net/for_the_life_of_terri_schiavo.html#The%20Plan%20Revealed%20Terri%20Schiavo%20Case)

Halloween Guardian Ad Litem Appointee Keeping in Step With The Plan

Dr. Jay Wolfson was conveniently appointed guardian ad litem on what even the public is vaguely aware of as being the highest satanic holy day of the year.

Jay Wolfson, in perfect step with The Plan, does not believe Terri will recover, but is willing to agree to swallowing tests if the Schindlers and Michael Schiavo would agree in advance on how the tests would be used:

Wolfson said there could be value in swallowing tests and therapy being administered if Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers agree in advance on how the tests will be used. (Quote source: Court Guardian Says Terri Unlikely To Recover)
This sounds like Dr. Wolfson wants Terri's parents to agree to assent to Terri's death if she fails the swallowing test. His "bargain" with Michael would likely be that Terri be permitted to live if a miracle occurs and suddenly, she was able to eat on her own.

This coincides with what Appeals Court Judge Altenbernd stated are Terri's options: a miracle or "natural death":

…the difficult question that faced the trial court [Judge Greer in 2000] was whether Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo, not after a few weeks in a coma, but after 10 years in a persistent vegetative state that has robbed her of most of her cerebrum and all but the most instinctive of neurological functions, with no hope of a medical cure but with sufficient money and strength of body to live indefinitely, would choose to continue the constant nursing care and the supporting tubes in hopes that a miracle would somehow recreate her missing brain tissue, or whether she would wish to permit a natural death process to take its course and for her family and loved ones to be free to continue their lives. (Quote source: Fight-for-life bombshell: Woman 'trying to talk'!--World Net Daily)

People without death agendas call these options miracle or murder, and that is exactly what they are. According to The Plan, which Dr. Jay Wolfson's decisions coincide with, the disabled get a miracle or they get murdered. This is not presently legally permitted, even though many people are being quietly eliminated.

But if The Plan continues unhindered through the decisions of Dr. Jay Wolfson, this massive death door will be opened and result in not only the swift extermination of Terri Schindler Schiavo, but every disabled person. Appeals Court Judge Altenbernd's words are on record for all to read. This is not restricted to the matter of being able to hold a spoon and swallow. This is about all people who are disabled. No miracle for the disabled equals "being permitted to die a natural death." Any thinking person knows this means mass medical killings. (See: Medical Institutions and the New World Order)

Why use Terri—a disabled woman who has a family who loves her and wants to care for her—to set this landmark precedent? In order for this devilish plot to succeed, it has to be blatant in order to acquire the energetic cooperation of Satan's unseen spiritual realm.

The Christians of the United States are the key to whether or not Satan will be permitted to enter this particular doorway. If this doorway is opened, it will undoubtedly pave the way for mass killings of all disabled people, and then the categories of the "unfit" will broaden as time goes on. Disability was not an option in Nazi Germany, and it will not be permitted in an America that tolerates Nazi values either.

It is Time To Put The "Miracle or Murder" Would-be Precedent Setters on the Defensive

It is time to put THEM be on the defensive rather than Terri. Let THEM explain why a Schindler is being earmarked for public execution because she cannot ask for a ham sandwich or in fact, eat anything at this time due to the pro NWO agenda court system favoring her husband with the "right" to deny her rehabilitation and to use money that was awarded specifically for Terri's therapy to pay people who are plotting her death.

The fact that Michael is so afraid the Terri will respond positively to stimulation that he forbids her to receive flowers is public knowledge. The fact that he will not pay to have her wheelchair fixed so that she can go outside is public knowledge. The New World Order planners want such blatant displays of Michael Schiavo's lack of love for Terri to be known by the public. This serves their purposes because they want the public to be aware that putting Terri to death this is not really about fulfilling Terri's wishes at all. This is really about public policy changes that they want the citizens of the United States to go along with. The way they communicate this is by giving a bogus reason for new, immoral laws that they want to pass. If the public will knowingly go along with their excuses to kill people, then they have aided and abetted the government in eventually bringing about their own demise. This is exactly how the German people were conditioned to accept and later condone mass killings of Jews and other segments of the population that were considered not worthy of legal personhood.

They knew that Michael's court-protected violations of numerous Florida statues would become public knowledge someday. In their estimation, the more that could be done to demonstrate that this was a planned plot to murder Terri Schindler Schiavo, the better. They are used to getting their own way, and since the church is usually silent on moral issues in these dark days, they did not fear that their "murder in broad daylight" plans would ever backfire.

They wanted this precedent to be thoroughly marked with evil intent, from the lack of investigation surrounding Terri's highly suspicious injuries, to Michael's blatant and unafraid abuse of his wife, adultery and misappropriation of rehabilitation funds. All these actions, which prove that love has nothing to do with Michael Schiavo's decision to end his wife's life, fit their agenda and so they let Michael do as he pleased regarding his wife, whether it was legal or illegal. [For proof that existing laws were broken in order to try to kill Terri Schiavo, and to read the briefs filed by a concerned citizen that must be broadly publicized, see: Press Release - new papers filed in Terri Schiavo case http://libertytothecaptives.net/press_release_new_papers_terri_schiavo.html]

But the one thing they did not plan on was God's intervention. Just as Satan, a mere created being, works through his human agents to get his will done in this world, God works through His own people to intervene in the affairs of men. What is God directing you to do to put a stop to this "Miracle or Murder" precedent-setting plot to kill Terri Schiavo?

The Schindler's attorney, Pat Anderson said:

"The fact that Terri Schiavo cannot bring a spoon to her mouth should not be a death sentence." (Quote source: Fight-for-life bombshell: Woman 'trying to talk'!--World Net Daily)

The fact that Terri cannot put a spoon to her mouth will be a death sentence to Terri and also set in place the legal precedent to kill hundreds of thousands of people if we do not expose this obvious revenge/"miracle or murder" plot to the American public.

Now that you know the real reason the authorities have still not investigated the sudden collapse of a healthy woman, you can begin to demand that it be done. By the way, Michael Schiavo claims that Terri was bulimic. We are supposed to believe that a potassium imbalanced (which was merely an attending physician's guess at the time of Terri's collapse) is the reason she was found face down clutching her neck. One thing is certain: bulimia does not cause neck injuries consistent with strangulation! It is criminal that Michael Schiavo is being shielded from scrutiny regarding Terri's injuries simply because his plans toward Terri match those of the New World Order planners!

If Michael was the only person around at the time Terri suffered what x-rays reveal are the effects of strangulation, he must be investigated like anyone else who was near the scene of a probable crime. He must not be shielded because the "powers that be," who see an opportunity to settle an old score, want a Schindler to die under circumstances that will open the floodgate for future mass killings.

It is time to expose this wicked revenge/death plot to kill an innocent woman which will serve to open the door to genocide and finally, democide in the United States of America.

Gary and Lisa Ruby

Press Release - new papers filed in Terri Schiavo case

Gordon W. Watts, PRO SE litigant, College Graduate, and Lakeland, Florida Citizen
To: All News Media
Subject: Press Release - new papers filed in Terri Schiavo case
Date: Monday, 08 December 2003
Contact: Gww1210@aol.com (863) 688-9880 ; (863) 687-6141 ; (863) 686-3411
* Copies of the briefs, which I have filed, are available at the various courts (6th Circuit in Pinellas Cty, 2nd Appellate DCA, here in Lakeland, and Fla Supreme Court) - for a fee - and copies are available online at:
http://HomeTown.AOL.com/Gww1210 or http://www.GeoCities.com/Gordon_Watts32313

INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT
I have become involved (filed legal papers) in the Terri Schiavo case, and, as unusual as it seems, I do have legal standing to do so. Also, I know it's been a complicated case, but the general public still has misconceptions - to wit:
PUBLIC MISCONCEPTIONS
People to whom I've spoken (and I've found almost no exceptions - after speaking with many people) almost all think that what happened to Schiavo was both (1) legal and (2) court-ordered. ** IN TRUTH: Some of what happened to her was questionable but legal (removal of feeding tube), but other stuff was ILLEGAL: (-1-) Removal of "regular" food constitutes "mercy-killing," prohibited by the statutes (outlined in just ONE of my "Schiavo" suits), which prohibit the like of Dr. Jack Kevorkian from "doing his thing." (This would suggest your news organization needs to inform the public, so misconceptions like this will cease: (-2-) The courts never ordered the withholding of "regular" food - and the fact that she may not be able to feed herself - like world-renowned physicist, Dr. Stephen Hawking or "Superman" actor, Christopher Reeves - is of no import - as the law makes no provision for consideration of these topics. The law is clear and unambiguous on this matter: Mercy-Killing, be it by starvation, lethal injection, or whatever, is *ILLEGAL* - even if the courts had ordered such, and they have not, per above.)

[Lisa's note: Florida statutes prohibit the withholding of regular food and water. Regular food and water is not "medical treatment" that can be legally denied any person. The fact is, they broke the law by denying Terri food and water by mouth!]

GENERAL PRESS RELEASE IN RE SCHIAVO - Types of court actions filed:

(1) The Amicus Curiae is a "friend of the court" brief, which anyone can file - such as the ACLU and some out-of-state organizations have already filed. I, as a Florida Citizen, have even more legal standing, as the Amicus deals with a Florida Law. (In my Amicus, I supported Big Jeb! in his contention that "Terri's Law" is not unconstitutional.) I have only filed one of these "archetypes," and it was very short and to the point, because most of the issues had already been covered - and just needed clarification: Busy judges like short briefs, such as this six-page brief covering Separation of Powers, Due Process, Equal Protection, and Constitutional "Privacy" Rights. (Copies of all briefs I've filed in this cause are posted online, as listed above.)

(2) The second "type" is a petition for some of the great writs, the most notably, of course, being the Writ of Habeas Corpus, which can test ANY type of illegal deprivation of justice, but is most commonly used to test illegal jailing and also illegal taking of a child - in custody cases - spousal disputes, in fact. Here, I have filed as "next friend" in three (3) different courts authorized to hear Habeas pleas in Florida, and this is "shaky" legal standing, but since *no one* else has asked the court to test these problems, someone must, and I am that someone. In fact, I have asked the court for four (4) original writs: (1) The Habeas mentioned above; (2) A Mandamus to compel the local police to uphold the euthanasia/mercy-killing and assisted suicide laws, (3) A Writ of Prohibition, which would prohibit the lower courts from exceeding their authority in their attempts to stop rehabilitation, which other courts have not only ordered, but also funded - and lastly, (4) A writ of Quo Warranto, which would ask certain parties (chiefly, estranged husband Michael Schiavo) "by what right" he illegally attemts a mercy killing (or, if Terri was unwilling, an attempted felony murder). "Quo Warranto" is best-known to ask "by what right" a person holds a certain office.

WHY MY COURT ACTION IS DIFFERENT FROM ALL OTHER BRIEFS FILED SO FAR
After careful research, it appears the only two "writs" any attorney for Terri Schiavo has asked was a (-1-) A Writ of Mandamus compelling Gov. Jeb Bush to enforce the State Constitution's prohibition of "cruel and unusual punishment" and guarantee of general life and liberties and (-2-) A "Writ of Prohibition" to disqualify a trial court judge in an appeal case #2D03-4621, to the 2nd DCA. However, none have apparently sought enforcement of specific laws (mercy-killing), such as my court briefs, and I have not heard of *any* other lawyers asking for Quo Warranto, Habeas Corpus. All others have just blown off steam about "mercy-killing" and not actually pursued these avenues, but the negligence of these fine lawyers - or any criticism they might have - does not invalidate my pleadings.

Three (3) Quotes from me: "What good does it do the Fla Legislature to write new law - Terri's Law - if they can't even get police to enforce current euthanasia and mercy killing laws?"

"Although I might get a chilly response from some people trying to fight for "Terri's Law," because of perceptions that my Habeas pleadings might 'rock the boat,' it is of no import to me: The current law needs to be enforced, and then we can talk about defending the newly crafted "Terri's Law," but nonetheless, I still think that it is not unconstitutional, as I outline in my Amicus Brief, supporting Jeb Bush, all of six pages long, brief and to-the-point, covering all the major constitutional issues."

"We may have disagreements, about how to get the job done, and I may think that some lawyers have missed a few things, but we all make mistakes, and so we must use a team effort to be successful and get along: I wish all the success to the other lawyers and friends trying to help Terri Schiavo and others like her. And, I wish one and all Happy Holidays this 2003 Winter Season!"

Thank you for your feedback and for covering the news.

Sincerely,

Gordon Wayne Watts
Gordon W. Watts

* All my contact data is in the Certificates of Service in the Court Briefs, both posted on my web sites and filed with the respective courts, but if you need to call me, for any reason, I am at (863) 688-9880, (863) 687-6141, and (863) 686-3411 ; E-Mail=Gww1210@aol.com.

http://www.geocities.com/Gordon_Watts32313/SchiavoPressRelease.html

Even the most handicapped person wants to live. The least physically perfect among us are often happier than the rest of us. The earth was not created just for those who by some set of elite standards are physcially perfect, but for all creatures. I've had painful illnesses in my life but I never wanted to die. I kept praying God would let me live. I just wanted relief from the pain. I never hear anyone in the elite group that decides who will live or die, suggest that the pain and discomfort and imperfections be made easier by other methods. Their only solution to suffering seems to be death. Often, those with physical imperfections from birth or accident, are happier to be alive than the rest of us. We should never assume that a handicapped person doesn't get any enjoyment from life; they may enjoy things that the rest of us never notice.

I guess the question is, that has man come to a place where he has put himself into the role of God. We have taken into our own hands when a person should live or die. We do what we can to keep someone alive even though perhaps had we not intervened they would have died. I feel that we do not allow God the space to be God, for him to decide when live should end or begin. We want someone to live, we provide the source, We want someone to die, we deny them that source. God allows us the freedom of choice, but have we taken it too far, in both spectrums?

I have a cat that is blind and can not walk: there isn't a state that wouldn't arrest me if I starved that cat to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is it that a judge will allow a human to be starved to death by her husband and arrest him for doing the same thing to an animal?

If the Lord knows best ... than why are you praying that we use artifical tubes and pipes to keep her alive? Wouldn't He keep her alive if taken off the man-made equipment? I believe God will make the decision and that people -- though well-meaning -- have been making the mistake of thinking that protecting people from God's decision is humane. No one is "letting her die." Only God makes that choice.

Angela if the Lord knows best, then we should follow his commands to feed the hungry and care for the sick rather than telling him to go do it himself. The tubes are no more artificial than the spoons and forks we use.

As for her being unable to eat independently her "vegetative state", she is kept cruelly in this state because she has been refused therapy. While she was receiving therapy, her condition improved, she could laugh, and recognize loved ones. I can just see it now, if Judge Greer and Michael Schiavo got to the dying man before the Good Samaritan did, they'd make it illegal for the Good Samaritan to give the dying man aid because the dying man was dependent on help.

What kind of society is this? "Terry needs our help, therefore we can legally and morally kill her".

Those of you who think Terry should not be fed should try going without food or water yourselves for 24 hours before you even dare to suggest such a cruel torture which would last weeks.

Those of you who share my disgust with what is happening, please remember to pray for Michael Schiavo and Judge Greer as well. Only they can legally save Terry's life, God loves them too and died for them, and their souls are in dire peril.

Angela,
She isn't being kept alive artificially - she's being fed. If food is "man-made equipment" then we should all be left to die, right? I'm hoping you misunderstand the situation, since Terri isn't being "kept alive" by anything but food and water. She is now starving to death, not being allowed to die. There is a large difference.

God bless,
Jay

I just finished reading all the comments from the top of this site. I was looking for the constitutional statutes that support each side in the Schiavo case. I have my feelings/beliefs and as strong as they are I am astounded that right to die/right to live is even in dispute. Have not the medical advances to date provided "life" beyond what is natural? Have we, civilized peoples, not questioned our motivations re: to give life; to take life...to manipulate life,...etc. Really, the answer is in the Question and it is not for us to decide. Our only decision in this life is How do we get
Home? On our way back to Home the travailes we met and our navigation of them mark our growth as God's children (not masters of our domain). Home can only be gotten to by oneself. A collective is not an option. Dear God! let the cup pass from me. Forgive them for they know not what they do. Support what ever side you want, it matters not. The matter will be settled by the only one that can. And soon there will be another "injustice" to right and we'll fly up our own ...get in our own way again. God is watching.

I fing the idea that a third party prson can kill another severly disabled one without a written will dangerous legally. I am a Christian and believe this is wrong and a sin. If you don't believe it is a sin, don't you feel it would be dangerous to let her die without a will stating such? If you feel you would want to die in that sitch. then write a will to state such. However, pulling the feeding tube with out knowing for sure her wish is dangerous. Husbands are the #1 suspects most of the time when their wife is murdered-violence against women is a very real and present danger. How do we know who to trust? Do we take someone at their word in this sitch? What if it's a flat out lie. What doors would we be opening for unscrupulous people who want to be rid of their wives or inherit the insurance? I rather err on the side of life-this women is not even in constant pain! Also, where do you draw the line? How disabled do you have to be for a third party to deny you life?
One disabled person, Joni Erikson Tadda was in a diving accident and was paralized. She lost the use of almost everything, but can turn her head, and move her arms but not use her hands. At first she wanted to die. I am glad she was not alowed to kill herself. Now she makes increadable paintings with a brush she holds with her teeth! Also, she speaks all over the world and is marrried! Her courage inspired others. She is an inspiration to me! The wish to die can be temporary, lasting a day or week or year...but often the human spirit, by the grace of God, can find the will to live.
Prehaps it is fear that moves people to want Terry S. killed. They fear ending up as she did, and living that way. Sometimes I am afraid of things like that too. But to deny terry life because of are own fears is a best, projecting our fears and desires on to her.
We need to look beyond Terry and think about what this will mean for the futre of the country. Think about it.
Thanks!

I cannot believe the cruel comments and inaccuracies out in the public domain as a result of Terri Schiavo's parents absolute selfish obsession of keeping her alive at all cost and that people believe them. Did not they and her husband work extremely hard to effect a recovery for her in the early years following her collapse, was it not micheal who sent her for expensive and i believe experimental electrode therapy that her parents did not support because of the expense. Is it not true that 15 judges and a number of court appointed (ie. Not her husbands or parents chosen) Medics all agree that she is in a vegetative state.Her parents insistence that she is not,supported by the cynical public release of edited video clips showing apparent responses (which could not be repeated and were obviously reflex actions) in order to galvanise support for themselves is also true. I think her husband after years of devoted care in spite of medical advice that all hope was gone eventually himself came to accept his wife's situation was indeed hopeless and that she be allowed to die peacefully. She was being kept alive artificially by means of the inserted feeding tube just as surely as if she had a breathing tube/ I unlike many am not willing to play God here and keep someone alive unnaturally simply because I dont want them to die as is the case with her parents. It is time they let her go, stopped being so selfish and let her suffering end. They should also stop making nasty comments against her husband who according to even her court appointed guardians was a fierce advocate for his wife while there was hope,evidenced by the care facility where she was considering a restraining order against him because of his excessive demands he made re her care.Maybe he now has a girlfriend and children,that should not be held against him. Is he not simply trying to move on with his life. It is a bit rich those saying he should divorce her,something the catholic faith abhors, so her parents can assume guardianship (including her parents I believe) and then in the same breath use her catholicism as a reason to keep her alive. The whole situation is very sad I feel for them all but after 15 years it is time for a strong dose of reality and for all concerned to consider their motives especially her parents who are in the sad position all parents fear that of having a child predecease them. Most importantly they should respect their daughters privacy, stop releasing videos etc. and stop their public campaign agaist her husband, the man she chose to marry, the man she chose to attend fertility clinics with in order to have their child and show themselves to truly be the christians they say they are. And before you go off in a tangent because I support Terri's husband on this issue I do not supprt the withdrawal of feeding tubes or other lifesaving measures in any other situation than those where brain death is clinically proven or serious brain injury where there is no hope of recovery of cognitive or emotional thought for the individual concerned. I am aware of thousands, like myselfwho, due to chronic illness gain all fluids and nutrition by means of a feeding tube.

Something that I cannot believe is that the testimony of some of the nurses and caretakers who have experienced Micheal and his attitude toward Terri have been squelched.
There is a deep undercurrent of hatred and greed that has not been investigated. Micheal's actions in the past have not been reported in the mainstream media. I find Micheals intentions rather suspect. It would be a trajedy to let Terri die with all this uninvestigated. He has NEVER allowed any therapy. He'd rather kill her than see her recover in any capacity. I question his intentions

Your right Angela, the Lord does know what is best! that is why Terry is still alive! just because her husband has found another woman and wants to go on with his life,he should let her family take care of her! but he don't have to starve his wife to death for his own satisfaction. That is letting her die!slowly!
There are many States where it is aginst the Law if you don't provide food & water and shelter to your Dog (animals)and Angela Dogs does not have a soul!

Let Terri Live, most of us fight to the end even in the most hopeless conditions. It is our nature to fight death. Perhaps what has kept Terri alive, is that she is more aware of what is going on the we imagine. Perhaps she has something important to say about how she ended up in this condition.

This issue has shown just how cruel people can be to one another. Think about this: How would you like to be starved to death? How would you like to die of thirst and torture? Is it "humane" to pull the tubes out of someone so that the surviving "spouse" can move on in life? Oh yes, please be sure that no priest can visit Terri, especially since she is a "vegetable". What are the judicial tyrants saying about this? Ask that Clinton appointed ghoul named Whitmore to intervene? No way should government intervene on Terri's behalf! Meanwhile her parents are pleading to deaf eared politicians to save her life. These are the ingredients to disaster which we are now allowing to plague us.

We are in serious trouble. These things that are happening now are setting a precedent for the way we will treat others in the future: imagine a future when you are in a similar situation, and you are told you must die, and those are the rules! This is similar to the plotlines in the 80s movie "Logan's Run". If it's available, see the movie. It's about a society that gives you all the pleasures you want in life, but you must be killed before your 30th birthday. Imagine a society which can pull the plug on you if you need to be nourished through a tube. You don't need to imagine it; it's here and now!

Keep thinking, and please keep up the vigil to keep Terri alive so that Jesus Christ will work miracles through her and teach us all a serious lesson on compassion!

When individuals are born with developmental disablities, do they pull plugs. Answer NO.
They give them the best quality of live even with a damaged cortex.
What a horror . Can't anyone see that Terri's head is moving and eyes and saying don't let that horrible husband come near me. And Mom and Dad I am hurting, and sad that my husband wants me dead. He looks like he eats and sleeps pretty good.
She is asking for help and doesn't want to be starved to death, and don't think for one moment she doesn't understand what is going on.
She does understand, unfortunatley she just can't tell you in words. Eyes tell it all.
Joan Taylor.

This is ridiculous plain and simple. This should be no ones business but Terris parents. You may call the state Terrie is in whatever you want to. But it shouldnt matter. God loves all of his children and if he felt it was terries time to go he would take her. just because a life is not "perfect" we take it away? Absoulutley not it doesnt matter what state Terri is in if her parents want to take care of her, they should have every right to its their daughter. 3 months or 40 years old it dont matter in the least. They want to take her of their daughter and they should be able to. Michael's story is really troubling he sues for male practice and finds that the longer terri lives the bigger judgement he will receive? incidently waiting 7 years to even suggest that Terri did not want to be kept alive artifically. Michael claims that Terri didnt want to be kept alive that way which she even isnt right now, but still this would of been an everyday conversation which im doubting even occured. If Terri was serious about not wanting to be kept alive "artifically" She would of made a will stating that and signing it. A person may say one thing but when the time comes may feel a totally different way. No one can explain why Michael is banning everyone even a preist from seeing her... why? is Micheal trying to hide something? those with half of the story say shes been in a vegetated state for 15 years and isnt comming back i ask you this. why was her therapy stopped over 13 years ago? Does Terri know something that Michael doesnt want to risk getting out? I pray for her parents and my deepest sympathys go out to them.

Please read the web site, of Florida Cruelty to Animals Statutes, s.828.12 A person who intentionally commits an act to any animal which results in a cruel death or excessive or repeated infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering, or causes the same to be done, is quilty of a felony of the third degree, also punishable by a fine of not more than 10,000.
s.82813 Confinement of animals without sufficient food, water, or excerise: abandonment of animals is quilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, also punishable with a fine of $5,000, or by both imprisonment and fine!
Is there any comaparison from a Human's life to a Dog's life? evidently the State of Florida thinks so!
It is very scarey to think that we have a President (George W Bush) that has the control over millions of people and our Arm Forces, but can't control and put a stop to these Barbarian's.
Praying for Terri!

i think that it is pure evil what micheal schiavo is doing to his wife. she is a human being just like the rest of us and deserves to live just as much as any other good christian should. i could only imagine the pain both terri and her family are feeling and going through. it's completely unfair what micheal is doing.if by any reason micheal schiavo would ever read this i would want him to no that he is getting a front row seat with the devil. how could someone want to kill an inocent person...expecially by starvation. my personal opinion is that it should be micheal starving to death not terri. i would also want to let terri's family and friends know that my prayers are with terri and that i wish that there is something i could do.

The time to refuse "artifical life support" as he is calling the feeding tube, was when they asked to put it in. If she had expressed her wishes NOT to have such, he should have NEVER allowed it. But no, he waits 7 yrs. Seven years. I could see maybe 7 months of hoping things would improve, but not 7 years.

A feeding tube is not "extreme life saving" measures. Half of the cancer kids, many of disabled people have feeding tubes. For whatever reason it may be needed. Now if there was a machine breathing for her would be different. What about dialyasis (kidneys), if they don't have the treatment the kidneys would shut down, that seems to be more extreme than a feeding tube.

Lastly, I am the parent of a cancer kid. We (parents) had to make such decisions. But not one ever choose to allow their child to die by dehydration or starvation. No matter what the "experts" said. And the medical profession is still in its infancy.....there is more they don't know than they do. Just ask one why a child gets cancer, how to treat it, what's the cure. And you will see. They know even less how the brain works.

Leave the poor man alone. Isn't it enough he has to make these painful decisions regardin the life of his wife, let alone trying to deal with the media hype? I believe in a person's right to live, but this woman has been "dead" for years. Mr. Schiavo is medically sound and I'm sure he knows much better than we what his wife's needs are at this point. I have worked with people just like Mrs. Schiavo and they are only alive because of a feeding tube or some means of artificial support. All we did was turn them, clean them, and make sure they were cared for by medical staff. They were not able to respond, show emotion, or feel pain. Mrs. Schiavo put herself in this predicament by her failure to control her disease...bulimia, which caused the extensive medical mishaps that go along with the disease. It's sad that this self-infliction has caused the turmoil and rage of a nation who shouldn't be involved at all. This should be a matter left to the family.

I support Mr. Schiavo in his quest to free his wife and let her pass naturally. Leave him alone. This is a good man. It's a shame the media and Schindler family has chosen to crucify him. His good deeds have gone unspoken. I feel for him and wish him happiness.

Just a note for you all...My brother was diagnosed as being brain dead, doctors at that time said what we saw laying there would be what we see for the rest of our/his life. He then was touched by God (no other way to explain the miracle) he now walks, talks and feeds himself what at one time was a picture of a dying man. I think the same miracles can happen to others like him. He has some severe disabilities as some would say but he has come a long way and now interacts with family and staff. I could never ever think about cutting him off watter, she was breathing on her own that meant that there was hope, noone was breathing for her so let it in Gods hands, if he calls her then she will go. In my medical schooling, we were taught that one's hearing is thhat last sence of the body to leave and if that be fact, Terri has, I am sure her her husbands horrror stories about letting her die. What only could she feel.
Another curious matter that crosses my mind is that what caused this injury to Terri, what caused her heart attack, if in fact that is what caused this to happen to her? Maybe there is more than meets the eye here. Maybe there was severe abuse going on between her and Micheal and MAYBE that is why he wants to end it hoping that with all the medical techniques nothing will surface to help Terri cause that would interfere withhis new love. He married her and isn't that through sickness and health and until death do you part?? Maybe Terri wasn't getting out of his way fast enough for his new fling or maybe just maybe he is guilty of more that what we know of. He says he only has about 40 to 50 left in money well wait til it is all gone afterall it was Terri's money, he wouldn't have had it if it for her so let it be for her. This is a horror story all in itself, and I sympathize with "mom and Dad, Brothers, Sisters" how hard and could you watch your blood die before your eyes?? As a mother I couldn't do it and I couldn't and woun't have watched my brother die like that. She is lasted this long for a reason, "she doesn't want to die" and her body was apparently healthier thatn others thought to last this long. Maybe she too is holding on to hope. I think that her husband is being selfish and I think he did in fact promise her mom and Dad money when he got, but became selfish with that like he has become with Terri. If he has a new woman, give Terri back to her parents and marry you girlfriend if she still will. Cut the bull out.

Does Micheal Shaivo get insurance money if Terri dies? It sounds kind of suspicious that he wouldn't just let her parents take care of her, instead he's got his 'license to kill' and may get paid for it besides. You can't say that he feels the same love for her now as he did 15 years ago. Especially since he has a fiancee. How many years was Terri ill before Micheal decided "She told me not to keep her alive artificially" ? I think it was 6 or 7 years before he tried to take her feeding tube out. It sounds like he's after money or something, so he can live a brand new life. I could be wrong; but has anyone ever investigated to see if there was some insurance or something when she dies? The doctors say there is no hope for Terri ever recovering, but they are talking about something they really don't know anything about. Nobody is an expert on the brain, there is how much of the brain left that no one knows what its purpose is? I believe Terri is still there, only stuck with a body that won't cooperate with her mind. Doctors aren't experts on human life; how many times has things happened that they cannot explain. Nobody except God knows what Terri is thinking. God has the real power, and everyone will be judged for their actions when the day comes. We cannot say what is right and what is wrong because what may seem right could actually be very wrong or vice versa. Terri Schaivo, we are praying your suffering will end, your in God's hands.

In response to Starr on March 27th. Terri Schiavo is not passing naturally. She is being DENIED food and water. Cruel and unusual punishment. Shes dying a slow death, the same amount of time a healthy, able person would take to die if they were starved to death. With how long it is taking her to pass on, she was healthier than expected. What is it today, day 10 of starvation?

I think that Michael Schiavo is a monster. I believe that he wants Terry dead so he won't have any "loose ends" when he marries his lover. Honestly, he is the worst type of murderer. He pretends that he cares for Terry and that he wants to carry out her wishes. Why did it take him so long to state what Terry's wishes were? He is the scum of the earth, in my opinion. The absolute worst type of person. I believe that he lost his right to speak for Terry the minute he climbed into that other woman's bed. He should have done the right thing and turned her care over to her parents who love her. I'll bet this jerk can't wait to sign some book and movie deals when poor Terry starves to death. Honestly, I hope this guy has a life of sadness and misery. I hope every bit of pain and sorrow that he gave to Terry and her parents comes back on him many times over.

Michael Schiavo is clearly being guided by Satan. Who is he to rule over someone's life?

Terri Schiavo *is* dead. CT scans show her brain has turned to fluid. The parts of her brain that think, that feel pain, that reason... they're not just "disabled" as the Schiavo's would like you to believe. They're NON-EXISTANT.

But it sure generates quite a shitstorm for the uneducated masses. Of the 17 doctors who saw her case, they only saw the 4mins 20seconds that the parents of Terri cut together. The other 4+ hours of tape were not shown. Only *one* of the doctors actually met with Terri, and none of them had access to her *full* medical files. This so-called expert testimony was basically staged like this:

Q: Did you see the 4 minute video?
A: Yes.
Q: Based on this video, do you believe there is hope for rehabilitation.
A: Yes.

End of questioning. It's spin tactics. This woman *has no brain*. Reptiles have higher brain functions than her. All the money she won in settlements has been used to keep her alive and to pay for the litigation process to end this process.

Whether or not you think "starving" her to death is murder, euthanasia, or suicide is irrelevant. It's her husband's job to feed her. If he is found not to be responsible for feeding her, and she is under his care, he let's nature run its course. If you think that God sees this as a sin, why don't you let God save her, then, heh... not the courts.

Otherwise, why not just get it over with and elect the Pope as Dictator of the United States. Oh, and ironically enough, looks like the Pope is going to be put on one of those too.

Rafajafar,
I strongly request that you actually look into the facts of this case. First, take a look at the video - this isn't some vegetable, she's moving around, looking, reacting, smiling. She also isn't on life support. If you were starved for two weeks you would die as well.

Three doctors have argued that Terri can't be rehabilitated, whereas over 30 have argued she can. One doctor explained that he had rehabilitated people in signficantly worse conditions than Terri. The main doctor for Micheal - the one your conclusions are based on - spent only 10 minutes with Terri. Doesn't someone deserve more before being starved to death? Note that criminals can't be executed in this manner, why should the innocent have to suffer this?

According to your "let God save her" nonsense, then murder shouldn't be made illegal, right? Let God save you . . . if you deserve it.

By the way, do you endorse killing infants? They can't reason. How about those with alzheimers? The severely retarded? Think about it.

God bless,
Jay

You religious freaks. Did you see Terri's photos before her brain damage? She was a beautiful and vibrant young girl. Do you think that she would be happy knowing that she had been thrust into the spotlight around the world? Do you think she'd want to be remembered the way she was when she died? Apparently none of you have ever been around brain damaged people. I am a therapist who has worked in a brain injury unit. It is a horrible and irreversable injury. Why not let nature take its course. I feel sorry for her husband who seems to have been the only logical person in this whole mess.

Reading some of the comments of you religious hypocritical nut cases makes me sick!!!!!

Hey you materialist idiot. Not everything in life is the way you look. Wich one do you really think she would prefer, her beauty, or her life.
Tell me something, do you know what's going on through a persons head while they're in that condition. You don't know what God wanted to do with them. I've known three non religious persons, that have suffered the same thing as her, they've all said the exact same thing,"I saw a beutiful place, and a man sitting on a trone telling me that I should not give up, because he had a pourpose for me". You don't know what God wanted her to stay alive for. Maybe it was to encourege people. Besides is non of your business or the media's busines what is going in Terri's and her family members life. As you know , (because your probably a pathetic therapist,that doesn't understands her patients), she's not the only person with brain injury in the world.

Hey you materialist idiot. Not everything in life is the way you look. Wich one do you really think she would prefer, her beauty, or her life.
Tell me something, do you know what's going on through a persons head while they're in that condition. You don't know what God wanted to do with them. I've known three non religious persons, that have suffered the same thing as her, they've all said the exact same thing,"I saw a beutiful place, and a man sitting on a trone telling me that I should not give up, because he had a pourpose for me". You don't know what God wanted her to stay alive for. Maybe it was to encourege people. Besides is non of your business or the media's busines what is going in Terri's and her family members life. As you know , (because your probably a pathetic therapist,that doesn't understands her patients), she's not the only person with brain injury in the world.

Kimberly,
I agree - why not let nature take its course? I hope you would agree that starving her isn't "allowing nature to take its course." Terri Schiavo would have lived if she were simply provided food and water. I'm not sure I understand why we're "religious freaks" because we would fight for Terri's life when over 30 doctors who have examined her and said she could be rehabilitated - excuse me for taking their word over yours. I hope you will examine the case a little further and read more than just what the media is feeding you.

God bless,
Jay

Judge Greer, Mike Shiavo have got to go., Murderers, hand over yr food. I want to see u die of hunger and thirst.

Micheal, if you did this for money, may you rot in hell for eternity.........

It is the parents fault for wanting to make their daughter suffer for fifteen long years, not to metntion bringing the case to the media.

It is Michael's falt for his greed and inhuman tactics to rid of Terri.

It is the media's fault for making this a long and embarrasing death for an innocent human being.

It is Terri's fault for having an eating disorder, consequently sending herself into an irreversable coma.

It is the fault of you and I, the general public, for making Terri believe that the only way for her acceptance into society was to become bullemic and develop an eating disorder.

It is the fault of the protesters, they argue and bicker over the cost of human life.
Putting a price on human life, arguing about the WORTH of human life like it's a sick game.

We all have a part in this twisted puzzle, and we all fit in perfectly. It is the classic battle of religion versus science, nature versus divine intervention, a neverending war. And in the middle is a suffering woman who has been made the poster child of our battle.

It is wrong to take a life, but it is also wong to purposefully leave alone a life that is without question a painful and meaningless existence. But in pulling the plug, do we make ourselves angels, or demons? Are we doing God's will by fighting for the feeding tube, or are we making the situation worse?

There was no clear answer. Terri Schiavo has made the ultimate sacrifice--showing us the importacne of a tiny piece of paper that could sent the hand of God upon us and immediatly set us free or restrain us from immediate doom----

A living will which dictates instruction in such a said incident.

it was wrong.

TO all,
Terri is now gone, but not forgotten. Please!!.. lets' all remember that as long as assisted sucides and self determinations exist without written and signed documents by the person and a notarizion of the document as proof this is indeed a persons wish, then we will always have these instances happening. Under no circumstances should a husband or anyone else be able to say what the other person would want....whether it be life or death. As part of the female popuation I found it an outrage to allow a man,guilty of adultery who had more than moved on with his life but had indeed made a "new" life with another woman,to be the one to say "let her die". Terri had become an eye sore in this person life, why would he have wanted her to live. At that moment, our courts failed this citizen who had no voice. It allows for the death of thousands of unborn babies every year via abortions and partial birth abortions, where the child is half way out of the woman and a metal rod is then ramed into the childs brain, causing death. You! are the one who deserves death. It allows countless animals to be skinned "alive" everyday for the dead-in heart to grow richer. They! are the ones who deserve to be skinned alive. When you consider the countless brutal deaths that is allowed in America each year of unborn babies,and animals, and the self determination deaths that might not be the will of those who are dying, without it being written down, doesn't that tell you what we as a nation have become.
As a little girl, I remember thinking how beautiful the fur coats on T.V. looked, until I grew old enough to know how they came to be. I have never had a fur coat and never will and they are "not" beautiful anywhere except on the backs of the animals they grew on.
To the women of America, if you are not healthy enough or can't afford to have a baby I say: TAKE THE DAMN PILL OR HAVE YOUR A$%s FIXED. An unborn child should not have to pay for the mistake "you" made. No law in America has "ever" existed where someone else was put to death because of a mistake that you had made....except the abortion laws....
To anyone who has been raped..seek medical help and get a D&C immediately.
There is no excuse for STUPIDITY or MURDER.
For all of you who have had an abortion for any reason other than a sound reason (the child has two or more heads,etc. or when someone has a D&C after a rape)may God have mercy on you....if I were God I wouldn't.
To those who skin animals "alive" or grow rich from such torture...you deserve no better mercy than you have shown them.
And because Micheal was so determined that Terri should be denied the feeding tube, he should never under any circumstances be allowed to have one either....under no circustances. The rule is do unto others "AS" you would have them do unto you....and "with what measure you gave unto another, the same be given unto you...because you so richly deserve it.

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